Discussion devoted mainly to the Anglo-Dutch Wars (at sea), including ships, battles, and persons. Our website, kentishknock.com, is the primary outlet for artwork, research results, and more formal analysis and commentary. Copyright (c) 2003-2007 James C. Bender
Monday, December 31, 2007
The hired ship Mars in October 1653
Sunday, December 30, 2007
Ron van Maanen's translation from Brandt
Het leven en bedryf van den heere Michiel de Ruyter. G. Brandt, Amsterdam, 1687
At the battle at Plymouth 28 february 1652 the Struis or Struisvogel was commanded by Douwe Aukes with 40 guns and 200 men, E.I.C.- chamber Amsterdam. In the fight she came in the middle of the British fleet and her scared crew wanted to surrender. Her captain threatened to his crew to blow her up. Her crew started to fight again, destroying two British ships (800 men drowned)and heavily damaging a third. An other version is that she was attacked by two British warships, doing nothing, let them come alongside, than giving the first a broadside which sank it, the second a broadside which caused it to flee. Suddenly she was entered by a third one with so many men that her crew wanted to surrender and Aukes threatened to blow the ship up. After a heavy fight the free themselves and join the Dutch fleet again.
28 february 1653 she was part of the fleet commanded by M.H. Tromp which fought against the British commanded by Blake. De Struisvogel was now commanded by Kornelis Adriaensz van Kruik from Schiedam which fought together with De Ruyter and Sweers against 7 or more British ships until the evening. After fighting with several ships she was hardly manned and lost her masts. When Tromp saw this he ordered commandeur Gideon de Wiltdt to tow her away to safety. Due to low winds he didn’t succeed. Her decks were shattered with blood, wounded and dead, and 80 dead men could be seen. From the 40 sailors from Schiedam, of which the youngest as 20 years old, only 3 remained. The British stopped plundering fearing she would sink. The next day she was found by the British drifting as a empty hull with no sails and hardly any crew left and was brought into Portsmouth. Brandt wrote about Kruik that he was a very brave man.
Sunday, December 23, 2007
So what ship was this, if any we know?
A fluit ship laying at Medemblick 132ft long 27ft wide 12-1/2ft hold 6-1/4ft deck height with 32 guns: 8-12pdr 6-8pdr 12-6pdr 2-5pdr 2-3pdr 2-2pdrWas this ship hired and if so, under what name and organization did it serve?
Wednesday, December 19, 2007
The 125ft ship in the 28 January 1653 page could be the Walvis
The Groote Sint Lucas?
Tuesday, December 18, 2007
Google Books has John Charnock's book History of Marine Architecture as a full view book
The Noorderkwartier ship Eendracht (1639)
Sunday, December 16, 2007
Dutch status reports after the First Anglo-Dutch War battles
Sunday, December 09, 2007
Why Vreugdenhil gave the Hector 34 guns
Saturday, December 08, 2007
Ship number 127, the Hector
Tuesday, December 04, 2007
The Overijssel commanded by Abraham van der Hulst in the first part of 1652
Gemant me 100 hoofden wact van de Soldijen bedraeght ter maendt 1356 comt van uit Julij 1651 tot den 20 November Anno 1653 f37516:0:0In another document, the ship is listed as being one of the 36 ships funded in 1651, as this text seems to indicate, as well, given the July 1651 date of funding.
Sunday, December 02, 2007
Odd sized Dutch guns: 20pdr, 15pdr, 10pdr, and 5pdr
20pdr bronze 3781 lbs 15pdr bronze 2750 lbs 10pdr iron 3162 lbs 5pdr iron 1530 lbs 5pdr bronze 1406 lbs
Saturday, November 24, 2007
Klokwijs and regular 12pdr guns
Nr. 1 2540 lbs straight Nr. 2 2560 lbs Nr. 3 1565 lbs klokwijs Nr. 4 1505 lbs Nr. 5 1403 lbs Nr. 6 1400 lbs
Wednesday, November 21, 2007
The Sampson and Alkmaar, both lost in 1652
Saturday, November 17, 2007
The Vrijheid at the Battle of the Gabbard
Thursday, November 15, 2007
The Sint Laurens
Sunday, November 11, 2007
What I know about Joost Bulter's ship in 1653
Ship number 164 in Vreugdenhil's list
Saturday, November 10, 2007
Dutch ships and captains in the First Anglo-Dutch War
Friday, November 09, 2007
The list of Dutch captains from 16 May 1652
Wednesday, November 07, 2007
I probably will not be available during the daytime
Sunday, November 04, 2007
The Zeeland warship Hollandia in early 1653
Saturday, November 03, 2007
Resources for the Dutch navy in the First Anglo-Dutch War
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
The ship Maaght van Enkhuijsen (Maagd van Enkhuizen)
The ship named the Maaght van Enkhuijsen commanded by Captain Cornelis Tromp Length: 125ft Beam: 29ft Hold: 12ft Deck Height: 6-3/4ft 34 guns: 18-12pdr, 4-8pdr, and 12-6pdr Crew: 110 sailors and soldiers in service from July 1651
Tuesday, October 23, 2007
The Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1642
Monday, October 22, 2007
Vreugdenhil's list and ships sold in 1649
Sunday, October 21, 2007
The ship Gouden Leeuwinne on 23 June 1653
Saturday, October 20, 2007
The eight Zeeland convoyers funded in 1648
Adm Ship Guns Captain Z Zeeuwsche Leeuw 27 Cornelis Evertsen de Oude Z Westcappel 28 Cornelis Evertsen de Jonge (formerly Adriaen Banckert) Z Amsterdam 32 Adriaen Kempen Z Middelburg 26 Claes Jansz Sanger Z Sandenburgh 24 Pieter Gorcum Z Wapen van Zeeland 34 Joost Willemsz Block Z Hasewint 28 Jacob Verhelle Z Jaeger, jacht 14 Adriaen Jansz Gloeijenden Oven
Thursday, October 18, 2007
Information from Ron van Maanen
Captain Andries Fortuijn's ship, the Eendracht, was hired from Willem Bollare for a rate of 212 pond Vlaams 10 schellingen.
Captain Cornelis Loncke's ship, the Faeme, was hired from John Chevael and other owners for a monthly rate of 233 pond Vlaams, 6 schellingen, 8 grote Vlaams.
Captain Frans Mangelaer's ship, the Liefde, was hired from Jacob van Pantegem for four months for 766 pond Vlaams, 13 schellingen, 4 grote Vlaams.
Captain Dingeman Cats' ship Dolphijn was hired from Johan Gruterius, a merchant at Middelburg, for a monthly rate of 200 pond Vlaams.
Captain Jacob Sichels' ship, the Wapen van Sweden, was hired from Chrijstoffel Wouters for a monthly rate of 233 pond Vlaams, 6 schellingen 8 grote Vlaams.
Sunday, October 14, 2007
Printing page images
Friday, October 12, 2007
The 2007 Weblog Awards
Thursday, October 11, 2007
VOC shps in the First Anglo-Dutch War, in 1652
Sunday, October 07, 2007
Where was the 116ft ship Enkhuizen in 1652 and 1653?
Friday, October 05, 2007
Friesland ships
Sunday, September 30, 2007
Dr. Ballhausen's list for the Dutch at Dover on 29 May 1652
Saturday, September 29, 2007
Two very similar ships: the Hollandia and the Amsterdam
Wednesday, September 26, 2007
As you can tell, writing has been impacted by other things
Monday, September 24, 2007
The fluit ship St. Jan Babtista
The fluit ship St. Jan Babtista (St. John the Baptist) Dimensions in Maas feet: 113ft x 21-1/2ft x 11ft x 4-1/2ft Dimensions in Amsterdam feet: 123ft-3in x 23ft-5in x 12ft x 4ft-10in
Sunday, September 23, 2007
The Duintjes
Saturday, September 22, 2007
The Wapen van Sweden
Friday, September 21, 2007
This has been a bad week for blogging
Many of the Dutch ships in service in mid-1653 were very ligthly armed
Tuesday, September 18, 2007
Lambert Bartelszoon's ship in 1652 and 1653
Saturday, September 15, 2007
The hired ship Jonas in June 1653
That inventory has gun weights (there are only 25 guns listed): 12pdr 3015 lbs 12pdr 2930 lbs 8pdr 2320 lbs 8pdr 2300 lbs 8pdr 2220 lbs 8pdr 2210 lbs 6pdr 2560 lbs 6pdr 2520 lbs 6pdr 2400 lbs 6pdr 2260 lbs 6pdr 2240 lbs 6pdr 2220 lbs 6pdr 2190 lbs 6pdr 2190 lbs 6pdr 2140 lbs 6pdr 2000 lbs 6pdr 1900 lbs 5pdr 1420 lbs 5pdr 1410 lbs 5pdr 1395 lbs 5pdr 1385 lbs 5pdr 1385 lbs 5pdr 1365 lbs 3pdr 730 lbs 3pdr 720 lbs
Friday, September 14, 2007
The fireship Graaf Sonderlandt
Admiralty of Amsterdam fireship Graf Sonderlandt 1652 Dimensions: 107ft x 23ft x 11ft x 5ft 1652 fireship schipper Herries Janszoon crew: 18 men
Thursday, September 13, 2007
The Noorderkwartier ship Roode Leeuw
Tuesday, September 11, 2007
Are the Sint Michiel and the Engel Michiel the same ship?
A-Dir Engel Michiel or Sint Michiel 1652 Dimensions: 22/02/1652 120ft x 27-1/2ft x 13ft x 6-1/2ft 27/03/1652 120ft x 27-3/4ft x 13ft x 6-3/4ft Guns: 20/01/1653 10-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 8-6pdr, 2-3pdr 28/04/1652 The ship the Engel Michiel, of the Greenland trade, arrived in the Texel 20/01/1653 The ship the St. Michiel, of the Greenland Company, was hired 31/05/1653 kapitein Frederick Bogaart, under Tromp's flag near Zeeland 20/06/1653 kapitein Frederick Bogaart, Engel Michiel, with 28 guns and a crew of 110 men list of ships in service between 8 May and 20 June 1653
Monday, September 10, 2007
So, where did the Friesland ship Groningen come from?
Sunday, September 09, 2007
The Middelburg Directors' ship Sint Laurens
Saturday, September 08, 2007
The Amsterdam Directors' ship Prinses Roijaal
Friday, September 07, 2007
We owe a great debt to Ron van Maanen and his work
Thursday, September 06, 2007
My information about the Amsterdam ship Utrecht in 1652 and 1653
A Utrecht or Uijtrecht 1633 Dimensions: 1652 120ft x 28-3/4ft x 11-3/4ft x 6-3/4ft 27/03/1653 120ft x 27-1/2ft x 12ft x 6-3/4ft Guns: 19/11/1652 18-12pdr, 12-6pdr 27/03/1653 18-12pdr, 12-6pdr, 2-4pdr 19/11/1652 the ship Uijtrecht, kapitein Roeteringh, with 30 guns and a crew of 110 men 27/03/1653 the ship Uijtrecht, commanded by kapitein Jan Roeteringh, armed with 32 guns and with a crew of 110 men and 20 musketeers
Monday, September 03, 2007
Sorry, I am binging on processing photographs
Sunday, September 02, 2007
Image tuning photographs of documents
Saturday, September 01, 2007
Nico Brinck's Swedish 12pdr gun
Friday, August 31, 2007
More ships from the list of 22 June 1653
No.83 Goes kapitein Cornelis Cuiper 97 men 26 guns No.84 Sint Joris kapitein Jacob Wolfersen 100 men 23 guns No.85 West Cappel kapitein Cornelis Evertsen de Jonge 95 men 28 guns No.86 Zee Ridder kapitein Gillis Janssen 114 men 28 guns No.87 Neptunus kapitein Adriaen de Oven taken by the English No.88 Zeeuwsche Leeuw commandeur Cornelis Evertsen de Oude 127 men 28 guns
Thursday, August 30, 2007
The ship Westfriesland on 22 June 1653
No.10 (in the list) Westfriesland kapitein Huijskens 110 men 28 guns Length: 122ft 103 men actually on board Beam: 28ft Hold: 12ft Above: 6-1/2ft 28 guns: 4-bronze 12pdr, 14-iron 8pdr, 4-bronze 6pdr, 2-iron 6pdr, 2-bronze 4pdr klokwijs (chambered), 2-iron 3pdr guns
Wednesday, August 29, 2007
The Campen on 22 June 1653
No.21 Campen Willem van Sanen (van der Zaan) 158 men 40 guns Length: 133ft Beam: 32ft Above: 7ft 40 guns: 4 bronze 18pdr, 2-bronze 12pdr 14 iron 12pdr 16 iron 6pdr, 4 bronze 6pdr klokwijs guns (chambered)
Tuesday, August 28, 2007
The Leiden on 22 June 1653
The ship Leiden, kapitein Hendrick Kroeger Length: 118ft Beam: 28-1/2ft Height above hold: 6-1/2ft The Leiden nominally had a crew of 107 men, but on 22 June had 96 sailors and 14 soldiers 30 Guns: 6-12pdr 100 12pdr shot 18-8pdr 130 8pdr shot 6-6pdr no 6pdr shot
Monday, August 27, 2007
The Amsterdam Directors' ship Samson on 22 June 1653
Sunday, August 26, 2007
Comparing the Prinses Louise and Leeuwarden
Prinses Louise Leeuwarden Adm of Rotterdam Adm of Amsterdam 1646 1645 Crew 121 sailors 120 sailors 41 soldiers 20 soldiers Length 120ft 120ft Beam 28ft-4in 29-3/4ft Hold 12ft-6in 11-3/4ft Ht betw decks 7ft-1in 6-3/4ft Mean draft 12ft-4in 11ft-7in (English feet) English Burden 365-17/29 tons 398 tons Lasts 200 lasts 200 lasts Displacement 523 tons 511 tons Jan Glete's Displacement 496.36 tons 487.61 tons Broadside wt 214 lbs 182 lbs Armament wt 44.34 tons (8.48%) 35.94 tons (7.03%)The Prinses Louise was more heavily armed than the Leewarden, although I may overstate the armament weight, as at least some of Prinses Louise's guns were drakes or chambered.
Saturday, August 25, 2007
Rif Winfield's book, The 50-Gun Ship is one of my favorite books
Thursday, August 23, 2007
The Amsterdam ship Leeuwarden
Wednesday, August 22, 2007
A page dated 28 July 1653 with notes at the bottom
Vice-Adm. Jan Evertsz. the English prize captured (perhaps the Bonaventura) van der Veer (perhaps the Wapen van der Veere) the ship Nieuw Vlissingen the SalamanderThese were all ships that fought in the Battle of Scheveningen (or Ter Heide) on 10 August 1653.
Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Adriaan van den Bosch's ship in 1653
Monday, August 20, 2007
The Engel Gabriel hired ship in July 1653
Sunday, August 19, 2007
A PhD thesis topic
Saturday, August 18, 2007
Noorderkwartier ships
I assume that Willem Ham's ship Sampson, a Noorderkwartier landsschip, was a 116ft ship. I could be wrong, but it seems likely. The Sampson was captured by the English on 22 July 1652, and was a sufficiently good ship that the English placed the Sampson in service in their navy under the same name and also carrying 26 guns. The Sampson served under the English flag until being sunk by gunfire at the Three Days Battle. The Sampson was the only English ship lost in the fight, being sunk on the first day.
I am less sure about Jan Warnaertsz Capelman's ship, the Alkmaar. The Alkmaar also was armed with 26 guns and was captured by the English in the Channel in Jun 1652. The Alkmaar was one of the 36 ships activated for service in late summer of 1651. This group of ships was intended for service in the Mediterranean against the North African pirates as well as increasing the Dutch readiness for a possible war with the English. The Alkmaar may have well been a 120ft ship, but could have also been a 116ft. All Noorderkwartier landschepen seem to have been either 116ft or 120ft long. The only exception was the 130ft Eendracht, armed with 40 or 41 guns which served in the Mediterranean Sea until after the Battle of Livorno in 1653.
Friday, August 17, 2007
Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier from late July 1652
Admiralty ships of the Noorderkwartier Captain Ship Guns Schout-bij-Nacht Pieter Florisz Monnikendam 32 Pieter Allertsz Hoorn 24 Cornelis Pietersz Taenman Prins Maurits 28 Arent Dircksz Wapen van Monnikendam 24 Pieter Schellinger Stad Medemblick 26 Gerrit Femmsz Wapen van Enkhuijsen 30 Gerrit Nobel Wapen van Alckmaer 28 Thijs Tijmensz Peerboom Peereboom 24 Gerrit Munth Huijs van Nassau 28
Thursday, August 16, 2007
The Amsterdam Directors' ships with Tromp's fleet in July 1652
Captain Ship Guns Jan Meijkes Alexander 28 Dirck Pater Blauwe Arent 28 Mattheus Cornelisz Sint Salvador 34 Jacob Swart Faem 28 Abraham van Campen Arke Troijane 28 Cornelis Jansz Poort Croon Imperiael 34 Cornelis Jansz Brouwer Valck 28 Marten de Graef Prinses Roijael 28 Gerrit van Limmen Neptunis 34 Cornelis Naeuoogh Sint Matheeus 34 Nicolaes de With Mauritius 34 Gerrit Schuijt Rooseboom 28 Bastiaen Bardoel Engel Gabriel 28 Cornelis van Houten Witte Lam 28 Hector Bardesius Gideon 34 Stoffel Juriaensz Sint Francisco 28 Claes Bastieansz Jaersvelt Davidt en Goliat 34 Jacob Sijbertsz Spanheijm Elias 34 Lambert Pietersz Nassouw 34 Hendrick de Raedt Swarte Leeuw 28 Sipke Fockes Sint Maria 28 lying mastless in the Texel Bruijn van Seelst Groote Liefde 38 Fredrick de Coninck Groote Vergulde Fortuijn 35 Fredrick Bogaert Engel Michiel 28
Wednesday, August 15, 2007
Somewhat off topic: the harbor at Amsterdam in early May 2007
Tuesday, August 14, 2007
More about the Hollandsche Tuin, thanks to Carl Stapel
Sunday, August 12, 2007
The Hollandsche Tuin
Saturday, August 11, 2007
List of ammunition for the Admiralty of Rotterdam in early 1654
70,000 lbs of gunpowder 600 36 lb shot 3000 24 lb shot 4000 18 lb shot 400 15 lb shot 12000 12 lb shot 4000 8 lb shot 6000 6 lb shot 2000 5 lb shot 2000 4 lb shot 6000 1 lb shotI believe that they fired a number of one pound shot from larger caliber guns, either for anti-personnel or anti-masts and rigging shooting.
Thursday, August 09, 2007
New Friesland ships: the Westergo
the ship Westergo Length: 134ft Beam: 34ft Hold: 14ft Height between decks: 7-1/2ft Crew: 170 sailors: 28 officers and 142 men 30 land soldiers
Wednesday, August 08, 2007
I frequently get confused with what Ron van Maanen has
Tuesday, August 07, 2007
The Rotterdam ship Dolphijn on 28 July 1652
Monday, August 06, 2007
Some captains from a list in 1652
Captain Adm Ship Hendrick Jansz de Munnick R Holland 30 guns Leendert Haexwandt R Utrecht 22 guns Dirck Juijnbol R Schiedam 30 guns Dirck Vijgh R Overijssel 22 guns Ernestus de Barterij R Hollandia 24 guns Corstiaen Eldertszoon R Roscam 26 guns Marinus de Clercq R Sphera Mundi 26 guns Corstiaen Corstiaensz de Munnick R-Dir Prins 38 guns
Sunday, August 05, 2007
The Bataviawerf page on Michiel de Ruyter and the Zeven Provincien
Saturday, August 04, 2007
The Vrede and Vogelstruijs could have had the same dimensions
Dutch English Measured Calculated Length Length on keel Length on keel 155ft 116ft 116.54ft (Dutch/1.33) Beam Beam outside the planking 38ft 36ft-3in 33.63ft (Dutch/1.13) Hold Depth in hold 19ft 17ft 16.814ft (Dutch/1.13)I believe that the answer is "yes". The beam issue just means that The planking on the Vogelstruijs was thinner than my system assumes. Herbert Tomesen, of Artitec expressed the opinion that the Vogelstruijs had the dimesions 160ft x 38ft x 18ft, as there was a charter like that for Amsterdam ships that had to get over the bar to enter Amsterdam.
The original plan for the 30 ships
Charters: 150ft x 38ft x 15ft x 8ft 140ft x 36ft x 14-1/2ft x 7-1/2ft 134ft x 34ft x 14ft x 7ft Charters: 150ft 140ft 134ft Admiralty: Rotterdam 1 ship 2 ships 2 ships Amsterdam 2 ships 4 ships 4 ships Zeeland 1 ship 2 ships 2 ships Noorderkwartier 1 ship 2 ships 2 ships Friesland 1 ship 2 ships 2 ships Totals: 6 ships 12 ships 12 shipsThis would have given the Dutch the equivalent of 6 English 2nd Rates, 12 English 3rd Rates, and 12 English 4th Rates. Eventually, they only built on 150ft ship among the first 30 ships.
Friday, August 03, 2007
I keep rethinking these issues, so I keep writing about them
Thursday, August 02, 2007
The Amsterdam ship Star or Morgenstar
Wednesday, August 01, 2007
Dutch arming plans from late 1653
Ship of dimensions 150ft x 39ft x 15ft with 58 guns: Lower Deck: 6-bronze 24pdr 20-iron 18pdr Upper Deck: 10-bronze 12pdr 12-iron 12pdr 10-bronze 6pdr drakes Ship of dimensions 140ft x 36ft x 14ft with 52 guns: Lower Deck: 4-bronze 24pdr 10-iron 18pdr 8-bronze 12pdr Upper Deck: 6-bronze 12pdr 14-iron 12pdr 10-bronze 6pdr drakes
Monday, July 30, 2007
The definitive word on the Amsterdam Directors' ships lost off the Shetlands in early August 1652
Adm Ship Guns Crew Captain A-Dir Neptunis 36 125 Gerrit van Lummen (or Limmen) A-Dir Princes Roijael 28 110 Marten de Graeff A-Dir Sint Salvador 34 120 Mathijs Corneliszoon A-Dir Alexander 28 100 Jan MeijckesThe status document does not have the gun and crew figures. I supplied those from Hendrick de Raedt's pamphlet.
Sunday, July 29, 2007
Dutch Gun Weights
Gun Weights 12pdr guns 3850 lbs iron 3220 lbs iron 3200 lbs iron 3160 lbs iron 3120 lbs iron 3015 lbs iron 3005 lbs iron 2980 lbs iron 2940 lbs iron 2930 lbs iron 2920 lbs iron 2909 lbs iron 8pdr guns 2500 lbs iron 2320 lbs iron 2310 lbs iron 6pdr guns 2560 lbs iron 2520 lbs iron 2400 lbs iron 2300 lbs iron 2260 lbs iron 2240 lbs iron 2220 lbs iron 2210 lbs iron 2200 lbs iron 2190 lbs iron 2140 lbs iron 2100 lbs iron 2000 lbs iron 1930 lbs iron 1900 lbs iron 1820 lbs iron 1590 lbs iron 1550 lbs iron 1525 lbs iron 1515 lbs iron 1490 lbs iron 1485 lbs iron 5pdr guns 1500 lbs iron 1420 lbs iron 1410 lbs iron 1395 lbs iron 1385 lbs iron 1365 lbs iron 4pdr guns 1295 lbs iron 840 lbs bronze 3pdr guns 965 lbs iron 950 lbs iron 895 lbs iron 730 lbs iron 720 lbs iron
Saturday, July 28, 2007
"The Sun and the Moon"
Friday, July 27, 2007
The Rotterdam ship Klein Hollandia
Thursday, July 26, 2007
The Noorderkwartier ship Eenhoorn of 1625
The frigate Overijssel in 1642
Wednesday, July 25, 2007
The Rotterdam ship Dordrecht in 1642
Tuesday, July 24, 2007
An inventory for the Amsterdam Directors' ship Walvis
The ship Walvis Guns: 10-iron 12pdr 8-iron 8pdr 10-iron 6pdr 2-iron 3pdr 2400 lbs of gunpowder on board 65 12 lbs shot 80 8 pdr shot 98 6pdr shot
Monday, July 23, 2007
I am still puzzled by a 1653 Brak
Sunday, July 22, 2007
Open issues about the Dutch in the First Anglo-Dutch War
Saturday, July 21, 2007
The list of the crew for the ship Faem
Friday, July 20, 2007
Ship characteristics in the Dutch building program in 1653
130ft long, 32ft wide with 130 sailors and 20 soldiers 136ft long, 34ft wide with 145 sailors and 20 soldiers 140ft long, 36ft wide with 150 sailors and 25 soldiers 150ft long, 38ft wide with 200 sailors and 50 soldiersThere were nominally only three designs, but some 140ft long ships were built. They included the Amsterdam ship Amsterdam, except with a 34ft beam, and the Oosterwijk with a 35ft beam, and the Friesland ship Oostergoo, seemingly with a 40ft beam.
Thursday, July 19, 2007
Carl Stapel on the 12 ships in Brazil
My best information on the ships in Brazil in 1651-1652
Ships in Brazil: 2 ships of the Admiralty of Rotterdam 4 ships of the Admiralty of Amsterdam 1 ship of the Admiralty of Zeeland 1 ship of the Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier 2 ships of the Admiralty of Friesland
Tuesday, July 17, 2007
The Dutch ships in Brazil in early 1652 (UPDATED)
Rotterdam: Nimwegen, 26 guns (kapitein Paulus van den Kerckhoff) Dolphijn, 32 guns (kapitein Marinus de Clercq) Amsterdam: Gewapende Ruiter, 36 guns (kapitein Boetius Schaeff) Aemilia, 28 guns (kapitein Floris van Oy) Graaf Willem, 40 guns (kapitein Tas) Westfriesland, 28 guns (kapitein Boonacker) Zeeland: a ship Faam, 30 guns (?) (kapitein Cornelis Loncke) Noorderkwartier: Eenhoorn, 28 guns (kapitein Allert Jansz Tameszoon) a second ship Friesland: Frisia, 28 guns (kapitein Tjaert de Groot) Breda, 28
Monday, July 16, 2007
The captain of the Faem in 1652
The "Oude Prins" (Prins Willem) shot carried on 22 June 1653
12 lb shot 25 per gun 8 lb shot 21 per gun 6 lb shot 13 per gun 5 lb shot 25 per gun 3 lb shot 12 per gunA little bit of trivia that wargamers might be able to use, if not historians.
Sunday, July 15, 2007
So, what were the dimensions of the Beer?
Saturday, July 14, 2007
David de Wildt's list from February 1652
LK * 1.33 = Dutch length overall B * 1.13 = Dutch beam inside the planking D * 1.13 = Dutch hold at deck side 108ft x 1.33 = 144ft (exactly right) 32ft x 1.13 = 36ft (exactly right) 15ft x 1.13 = 17ft (should be 15ft)I would argue that the 144ft x 36ft dimensions are more plausible than the 140ft x 34ft usually listed in the Amsterdam Directors' lists.
Friday, July 13, 2007
English ships, estimated: ships named Defiance
Ship: Defiance LGD: 138ft LK*B*D: 471 tons Built: Deptford DY Date: 1590 LK: 92ft LK*B*D*4/3 628 tons Fate: rebuilt in 1614 Guns: 45 Beam: 32ft (LK*B*B/2)/94 501 tons Depth: 16ft Ship: Defiance LGD: 121.25ft LK*B*D: 656 tons Built: Woolwich DY Date: 1615 RB LK: 97ft LK*B*D*4/3 875 tons Fate: sold in 1650 Guns: 40 Beam: 37ft (LK*B*B/2)/94 706 tons Depth: 18.28ft
Thursday, July 12, 2007
Guns for five new ships for the Admiralty of Zeeland
Bronze guns: 20 bronze German half cartouwen shooting 24 lbs shot 4 bronze French half cartouwen shooting 18 lbs shot 26 bronze short half serpants shooting 12 lbs shot 6 bronze half serpants shooting 6 lbs shot 24 bronze drakes shooting 6 lbs shot Iron guns: 42 iron half cartouwen shooting 18 lbs shot 72 iron sakers shooting 12 lbs shot 6 iron half sakers shooting 6 lbs shot 90 bronze guns and 120 iron guns
Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Jan Glete's approximation for displacement works pretty well
Displacement = Lasts x 2.5 x (39.37/12)^3/35I use the figure 39.37 inches per meter. I divide that by 12 inches to the foot to get cubic feet. A ton of seawater is 35 cubic feet.
Tuesday, July 10, 2007
The Rotterdam ship Den Briel, calculated
The ship Den Briel Length in Maas feet: 117ft Beam in Maas feet: 29-3/4ft Hold in Maas feet: 12-1/6ft Length in Amsterdam feet: 127ft-7in Beam in Amsterdam feet: 32ft-5in Hold in Amsterdam feet: 13ft-3in Displacement: 669.1 tons Broadside Wt (Est): 226 lbs Armament (Est): 12-18pdr, 12-12pdr, 4-8pdr, 10-6pdr guns Length on Waterline (English): 114ft-2in Beam outside of planking (Engl): 31ft-5in Mean draft (English): 13ft-1in Size in Lasten: 254 lasts Displacement (Jan Glete's approximation): 639.1 tons English length on keel: 96ft English burden: 503.3 tons
Monday, July 09, 2007
The ship Dordrecht in 1652, calculated
The ship Dordrecht commander: Sier de Lieffde Length in Amsterdam feet: 115ft-7in Beam in Amsterdam feet: 27ft-3in Hold in Amsterdam feet: 10ft-10in Est height between decks: 6ft-6in Displacement: 421.5 tons Broadside weight: 108 lbs Guns: 6-12pdr, 12-8pdr, 8-6pdr Length on waterline (English): 103ft-5in Beam outside of planking (English): 26ft-6in Mean Draft: 10ft-9in Size in Lasten: 160 lasts Jan Glete's approx. tonnage: 400 tons English burden: 325 tons
Sunday, July 08, 2007
The Rotterdam ship Prinses Roijael Marie "calculated"
Prinses Roijael Marie Built: 1643 Commander: Joost van Coulster Length (Amsterdam feet): 124ft-4in Beam (Amsterdam feet): 29ft-5in Hold (Amsterdam feet): 13ft-1in Est ht between decks: 6ft-6in Displacement: 585.8 tons Broadside weight: 184 lbs Armament: 2-24pdr, 4-18pdr, 4-12pdr, 22-8pdr, 4-6pdr Length on waterline(Engl ft): 111ft-2in Length on waterline (Amst ft): 119ft-9in Beam outside planking (Amst ft): 30ft-9in Beam outside planking (Engl ft): 28ft-7in Mean draft (English feet): 12ft-11in Size in lasten (Dutch gross tonnage): 220.98 lasts English burden (tons): 406.83 tons Jan Glete's approximation: 557.42 tons
Saturday, July 07, 2007
A different list of Rotterdam ships in the Extraordinary Equipage
Adm Ship Gun Commander R Overijssel 22 Cornelis Engelen Silvergieter R Utrecht 22 Leendert Haexwant R Hollandia 24 or 26 Ernestus de Bertrij R Beer 24 Jan de Haes R Sphera Mundi 26 Reijnout Venhuijsen R Calmer Sleutel 24 Dirck Vijch R Maria 24 Quirijn van den Kerckhoff R Roscam 26 Christiaen Eldertszoon
Friday, July 06, 2007
Mike Kelley pointed out this site about the French frigate Hermione
Thursday, July 05, 2007
Names
Wednesday, July 04, 2007
"Good Lists" of Dutch ships
Tuesday, July 03, 2007
A theory about names
Monday, July 02, 2007
Rotterdam ships in 1652 and 1653
Sunday, July 01, 2007
A 415 pound drake from the Scottish wreck
The 2004 and 2005 Reports are less definite about the Swan identification
Given my concerns, I was glad to see that the identification of the Scotland wreck from 1653 in the 2004 and 2005 reports was less definite. The report (this has the usual large PDF problems with loading, so you may not want to click on it) now says that the wreck is either the Swan or Speedwell, which really doesn't resolve my concerns. I am pretty uncertain that the Swan should be a candidate, given what I have seen. Hopefully, I just have not seen the right sources. I have to say that Colonel Lilburne's letter at least places some ship Swan off Duart Point and that the Swan mentioned there was stated to have been lost.
I am interested to see that the identification is understood to be an estimate, and that the wreck could be that of another ships. I shudder to think how many times I have made an estimate, based on analysis, which was later found to be wrong, once I learned more or was told information that invalidated my estimate. I rely upon the published literature to a great extent, more than can be justified.
The name Swan in the list of English captains from 1642 to 1660
Colin Martin and the Swan
A document that has a subset of the ships from this list from June 1653
Adm Ship Commander A Pelicaen kapitein Overcamp A Overijssel kapitein Jan van Campen A Goude Reael kapitein van Loenen Me-Dir Coninck Radbout kapitein Jan Rootjens N Eenhoorn kapitein Jan Jansz Heck N Lastdrager kapitein Gerrit Munt F Sara kapitein Hessel Fransz F Breda kapitein Bruijnsvelt F Graef Hendrick (kapitein Jan Reijndersz Wagenaer) F Waterhont (kapitein Oosteroon) A Sonne, FS (?) A Cleijne Hoop, FS
Spanish Armada guns, again
Saturday, June 30, 2007
I would be interested to see the list of Dutch ships in 1648
Friday, June 29, 2007
The Zeelands ships funded in 1651, as of December 1652
Adm Ship Guns Commander Z Hollandia 36 kapitein Adriaen Banckert vice-admiraal Johan Evertsen Z Zeelandia 32 kapitein Andries Pietersz den Boer Z Zeelandia 32 kapitein Johan Naelhout Z Zeeridder 28 kapitein Gillis Janszoon Z Neptunis 25 kapitein Jan Pauwelsz Z Vlissingen 32 kapitein Cornelis Mangelaer Z Salamander 26 kapitein Jan Christoffelsz Duijm
Thursday, June 28, 2007
The 7 Zeeland ships of 1651
Adm Ship Guns Crew Captain Z Wapen van Zeeland 34 140 Joris Willemsz Block Z Zeelandia 32 138 Andries Pietersz den Boer Z Zeelandia 32 Jan Naelhout Z Vlissingen 32 115 Cornelis Mangelaer Z Salamander 26 110 Jan Christoffelsz Duijm Z Zeeridder 28 120 Gillis Janszoon Z Neptunis 25 115 Johan PauwelszoonThis is based on two documents that I received back in early February 2007.
Wednesday, June 27, 2007
More about the Graef Hendrick
Tuesday, June 26, 2007
The First Dutch War book in six volumes
Monday, June 25, 2007
The ship Gerechtigheid in September 1653
Sunday, June 24, 2007
The Friesland ship Graef Hendrick
There is at least some evidence that Jan Reijndersz Wagenaer's ship, the Graef Hendrick, was hired by the Groningen Directors. I had not been satisfied with any of the other candidate ships. There were certainly other ships hired by Groningen for service in 1652 to 1653, but they probably served under the Admiralty of Friesland. The two Harlingen Directors' ships, the Vergulde Pelicaen (28 guns) and the Sint Vincent (28 guns) were also considered under the category of Friesland and Groningen Directors' ships. The Vergulde Pelicaen was eventually discarded, but the Sint Vincent served up until being lost in the storm off the Texel in early November 1653.
The ship that I had long assumed was the Groningen Directors' ship, the ship of Joost Bulter, seems to have been bought for service under the Admiralty of Friesland. That ship was named Stad Groeningen en Ommelanden. That was one of two 38 gun ships listed in De Jonge's list for March 1653. The other was the Zevenwolden. The Stad Groeningen en Ommelanden came into service much later than the Graef Hendrick and the two Harlingen Directors' ships. The other candidate, the Groeninger Sint Nicolaes, also hired by Groningen, seems to have served under the Admiralty of Friesland and was commanded by Laurens Hermansz Degelcamp. I might be persuaded otherwise, but for now, I am listing the Graef Hendrick as the Groningen Directors' ship hired in 1652.
Jacob Pauwelsz Cort must have been Michiel De Ruijter's flag captain in late 1653
Saturday, June 23, 2007
Some ships at Amsterdam on 12 September 1653
Adm Ship Guns Crew Commander A-Dir Hollantsche Tuijn 32 116 Harman Walleman A-Dir Blaeuwen Arent 28 116 captain in detention, in poor condition A-Dir Gidion 34 130 Dirck Somer A-Dir Engel Michael 28 73 Frederick Bogaert, short of 37 men A-Dir Swarte Leeuw 30 74 Hendrick de Raedt, short of 36 men A-Dir Sint Pieter 28 81 Gerrit Schuijt, in poor condition, short of 29 men A-Dir Walvisch 29 62 captain absent, short of 48 men A-Dir Vergulde Valck 26 83 Cornelis Jansz Brouwer, short of 27 men
Friday, June 22, 2007
A list of Amsterdam ships from September 1653
Adm Ship Guns Crew Commander A Huis te Swieten 56 270 Vice-Admiraal Witte de With A Amsterdam 50 210 kapitein Gideon Verburgh A Huis te Cruijningen 48 210 kapitein Jacob Pouwelsz Cort A Bommel 34 130 kapitein Pieter van Braeckel A Morgen Sterre 30 110 kapitein Albert de Graeff A-Dir Hercules 27 104 kapitein Veeneman A-Dir Koninck Davidt 28 124 kapitein Volgelsanck A-Dir Sampson 26 100 kapitein Cornelis de Groot A-Dir Ceurvorst van Ceulen 32 124 kapitein Sijmon Dootjes A-Dir Faem 28 128 kapitein Jacob Cornelisz Swart Me-Dir Coninck Radbout 28 90 kapitein Jan Rootjes (not an Amsterdam ship) A-Dir Moor 36 140 kapitein Arij Cornelisz van Ackersloot
Thursday, June 21, 2007
Sorry for the commercial message: rare books for sale
564 AITZEMA, Lieuwe van. Saken van staet en oorlogh, in, ende omtrent de Vereenigde Nederlanden, beginnende met het jaer 1621, ende eyndigende met het jaar 1669. 's Grav., Johan Veely, Johan Tongerloo, ende Jasper Doll, 1669-1672. 6 volumes in 7. With titles printed in red and black, engraved frontispiece, engraved portrait. - Added: SYLVIUS, L. (= Lambertus van den Bos). Historien onses tyds, behelzende saken van staat en oorlogh .. Amst., Jan ten Hoorn, 1685-1699. 4 volumes. With engraved portraits and plans. Together 11 volumes. Folio. Contemporary blind-stamped vellum, with later red morocco title-labels (1 mounted with tape), raised bands. Containing numerous documents concerning New Netherland and other parts of America, the foundation of the West India Company, Usselincx and the Swedish Company of the West-Indies, the Dutch in Brazil, etc. Cat. NHSM p.346; Knuttel, Verboden Boeken 11; Van Eeghen & Van der Kellen 106.
I paid a whopping 8,500 euros in 2001, when the euro was not worth as much as now. I apparently paid too much, but I had the resources at the time and thought it worth getting the volumes. I would be negotiable on price. I had bought them from Gert Jan Bestebreurtje.
I also have one volume of the Hollandsche Mercurius that covers 1666-1670 that I would sell. I have a copy of the volume covering 1650-1658, but would not part with it.
Hollandtze Mercurius, Vervatende Het Gepasseerde in Europa, Voornamentlijk in Den Engelze Ende Nederlantschen Oorlog in 't Jaer 1666. Het Seventhiende Deel, Together with the Same, Vols 18 , 19, 20 and 21 Pieter Castelyn 1667 - 1671. 5 vols bound in one volume in contemporary vellum, hinges cracking but firm. Bears signature of Carl Ewald Ziervogel, an 18th century Cape of Good Hope colonist.
I purchased the book from a bookseller in Johannesburg (he still has his advertisment posted after all this time).
Wednesday, June 20, 2007
The mystery ship St. Johannes from Jan Glete's notes
Tuesday, June 19, 2007
Oosterwijk commanders
From September to November 1653, commandeur Gideon de Wildt commanded the Oosterwijk on the voyage to Norway with Witte de With's fleet. In July 1654, Gideon de Wildt still commanded the Huis te Oosterwijk, as it was called in the Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654. Even in 1659, he commanded the Oosterwijk in 1659,when he was with De Ruyter's fleet in the Sound.
June 1665, at the Battle of Lowestoft, Dirck Schey commanded the Oosterwijk. He still commanded the ship in August, under De Ruyter's command.
August 1666, at the Twee Daagse Zeeslag, the ship was commanded by Lt.Col. Fransçois Palm, who was a marine.
In May to July 1667, during the raid on Chatham and Harwich, the ship was commanded by Jan Roeteringh.
In 1671, Engel De Ruyter commanded the Oosterwijk.
From May to July 1672, Volkert Hendriksz Swart commanded the Oosterwijk.
In April 1674, Pieter van Middeland commanded the Oosterwijk.
In July 1675, Jacob Teding van Berkhout commanded the Oosterwijk. He still commanded the ship in April 1676.