tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-60560562024-03-13T21:57:57.621-07:00Anglo-Dutch WarsDiscussion devoted mainly to the Anglo-Dutch Wars (at sea), including ships, battles, and persons. Our website, kentishknock.com, is the primary outlet for artwork, research results, and more formal analysis and commentary. Copyright (c) 2003-2007 James C. BenderJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comBlogger1863125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-3718099537310324462015-04-27T06:04:00.001-07:002015-04-27T06:04:42.272-07:00Two Dutch hired ships in the period of 1639 to 1654The Dutch custom during early to mid-Seventeenth Century was to hire suitable private ships for use as warships. Sometimes, they were even hired by other countries. We only have to look to Louis de Geer and Sweden for an example of that situation. There are several ships that served in the First Anglo-Dutch War and for which we do not have dimensions. One was the ship Prins. The ship was also Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-30286775710358821032014-12-12T15:21:00.001-08:002014-12-12T15:21:04.778-08:00The Dutch ship Vrijheid on 21 June 1653I have the inventory for the Dutch warship Vrijheid, dated 21 June 1653. The thing that caught my eye was that I had thought that the Vrijheid carried 52 guns on that date, but I was wrong, the Vrijheid had 50 guns:
Lower Deck
4-24pdr
18-12pdr
Upper Deck
4-12pdr
20-8pdr
2-6pdr
2-3pdr
Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-49568122835125577512014-09-12T09:58:00.000-07:002014-09-12T09:58:36.736-07:00Dingeman Cats in 1652 to 1653Dingeman Cats served as a captain for the Admiralty of Zeeland in 1652 and 1653. At the beginning of the First Anglo-Dutch War, he commanded a hired ship, the Dolphijn. The Dolphijn was quite small with dimensions of 105ft x 24ft x ? x 5-1/2ft. The Dolphijn was armed with 14-8pdr, 8-4pdr, and 2-3pdr. A report on 6 December 1652 gave the crew as 73 sailors and 25 sailors. That was actually after Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-77103740276474376462014-09-05T05:20:00.000-07:002014-09-05T05:20:08.827-07:00What we know about the Gecroonde Liefde, Marcus Hartman's ship, in 1653Captain Marcus Hartman commanded the Middelburg Directors' ship Gecroonde Liefde in 1653. Early in the year, Michiel De Ruyter used the ship as his temporary flagship. After that, the Gecroonde Liefde continued to serve in his squadron. The Gecroonde Liefde was one of the ships that was lost in the storm off the Texel on about 9 November 1653. We know the dimensions of the Gecroonde Liefde: 136ftJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-22053675675680922782014-05-17T09:18:00.001-07:002014-05-17T09:18:19.191-07:00The Zeven Provincien on 3 March 1672We have a handwritten list that includes the details for the Zeven Provincien (the Dutch fleet flagship) as of 3 March 1672:Name: Zeven Provincien
Admiralty: Admiralty of the Maze or Rotterdam
Built: 1665
Length in Amsterdam feet: 163 feet
Beam in Amsterdam feet: 43 feet
Hold in Amsterdam feet: 16-1/2 feet
Deck height in Amsterdam feet: 7-1/2 feet
Guns
12-36pdr
16-24pdr
12-18pdr
18-12pdr
Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-47238674990362578822014-05-13T06:10:00.008-07:002014-05-13T06:10:21.512-07:00Book: Dutch Ships in Various Operations in the First Anglo-Dutch WarI have had this book project, Dutch Ships in Various Operations in the First Anglo-Dutch War, in work for more than a decade. I would like to push to complete this as a Kindle book. I am in the process of doing the necessary reformatting. I have the information needed, although some analysis remains to be done.Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-19494986686541285322013-12-11T05:46:00.001-08:002013-12-11T05:48:19.012-08:00Dutch warship inventoriesThere must be a way to exploit the inventories for Dutch warships. The largest number date from around 23 June 1653, after the Battle of the Gabbard. A typical report after a battle in the Seventeenth Century included an inventory for each ship. The inventories from 1638 and 1640 just seem to have been made as part of normal reporting. The best inventories are in great detail and might include a Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-38913488940489325062013-10-28T05:08:00.000-07:002013-10-28T05:08:32.296-07:00Dutch warship inventories 1640-1653I have been wondering how researchers might exploit the Dutch warship inventories that still exist. I was pleasantly surprised to find that I had inventories for ships back to 1640. For example, I have the inventories for the Friesland ship Breda and the Amsterdam ship Deventer dating from 1640. There are a group of inventories dating from 1652 and from 1653. Many of the inventories for 1652 wereJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-90393895497734574372013-10-15T05:26:00.000-07:002013-10-15T05:26:02.633-07:00Staat van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654A very small number of lists that give the state of the Dutch navy for a year have survived to modern times. The complete, formal lists include the years 1628, 1629, 1631, 1633, and 1654. There are a collection of documents for 1655 that amount to an additional list. An oddity for the year 1654 is that there are multiple versions of the list. They differ in the amount of content. Two of the listsJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-70343332433994618952013-09-22T12:31:00.001-07:002013-09-22T12:31:56.799-07:00Guns on the Zeeuwsche Leeuw in 1652 and 1653The Zeeland ship Zeeuwsche Leeuw was Cornelis Evertsen's ship during the First Anglo-Dutch War, until the Zeeuwsche Leeuw was sunk at the Battle of Scheveningen. I have seen this ship incorrectly called the Wapen van Zeeland. We have three guns lists for the ship in 1652 and 1653. We have one list dated 6 December 1652, from the Collectie Johan de Witt. I believe that the inventory number was Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-17839021337534233732013-09-22T10:20:00.002-07:002013-09-22T10:20:28.078-07:00Zealand ship documentsRon van Maanen had pointed out interesting documents from the Zeeland archives with ship specifications. Benoit Strubbe, who has a Master's Thesis about Zeeland ships was able to find the documents and photograph them for me. I thought that there could be some benefit in having the original documents, if only for posterity. For example, there is a document about the galleas Zeeuwsche Leeuw built Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-44991584749424422682013-01-25T06:46:00.001-08:002013-01-25T06:46:34.836-08:00I am grateful that Teemu Koivumaki still has his Sailing Warships websiteI have been a past contributor to Teemu Koivumaki's Sailing Warships website. I had lost touch with the correct URL, but now have it again.Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-16506613774981828542013-01-25T06:09:00.001-08:002013-01-25T06:09:25.462-08:00The frigate Middelburg, with 28 guns, in 1665Has anyone know anything about a small frigate Middelburg that was mentioned along with the frigate Leiderdorp in 1665? The Middelburg and Leiderdorp seem to have been similar ships, both carrying 28 guns and having crews of 120 men. They both were used by the Admiralty of Amsterdam. There was another, larger ship named Middelburg that was also used by the Admiralty of Amsterdam. This was a ship Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-22773202818006970692013-01-17T05:13:00.001-08:002013-01-17T05:13:52.136-08:00The Noorderkwartier ship WestfrieslandI was surprised to find that I had good information that I didn't realized that I had about the Noorderkwartier ship Westfriesland. The Westfriesland was 8 years old on 26 February 1674, so the ship was built in 1666. The dimensions were: 160ft x 40ft x 14-1/2ft x 7-3/4ft. I also have the gun list dating from 16 May 1673: 6-bronze 36pdr, 2-bronze 18pdr, 18-iron 18pdr, 28-iron 12pdr, 6-bronze 6pdrJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-37598349708180986652012-05-07T09:27:00.000-07:002012-05-07T09:27:38.827-07:00The hired ship PrinsOne of the ships hired for service with the fleet sent to aid the Portuguese in 1641 was named the Prins. The Prins was armed with 38 guns and had a crew of 120 men. My question is if this was the same ship hired by the Rotterdam Directors in 1652 for service in the First Anglo-Dutch War? Both ships carried the same number of guns and had the same crew size. The Prins in 1653 later had a larger Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-77858517654771050292011-06-25T11:49:00.000-07:002011-06-25T12:02:09.009-07:00The ship Prinses Albertina van OrangienIn 1652 into 1653, Rombout van der Parre commanded a small ship hired by the Admiralty of Friesland: the Prinses Albertina van Orangien (the document from 1652 says Princesse Albartina van Orangien). In July 1652, he was assigned to Michiel De Ruyter's fleet that was to convoy merchant ships up and down the Channel. The specifications for the ship were as follows:
Length: 107-1/2ft
Beam:Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-64078297816088763272010-10-30T14:30:00.000-07:002010-10-30T16:48:54.454-07:00The Friesland ship Graaf HendrikThe ship Graaf Hendrik was hired by Groningen and served with the Admiralty of Friesland in the First Angl0-Dutch War. There are some pages from late 1652 that say that the Graaf Hendrik was a Groningen Directors' ship, but in 1653, the ship is always said to have served the Admiralty of Friesland. From the beginning of the war up until sometime in the spring of 1653, the Graaf Hendrik carried 30Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-69039801777041139262010-09-17T09:38:00.001-07:002010-09-17T10:05:20.843-07:00Some interesting tidbits from Carl Stapel from early 2007I have been the beneficiary in the past of receiving documents from Carl Stapel with the fruits of his research. What has interested me lately has been a list of Noorderkwartier ships from 1642 with sizes in lasts and dates when the ships were built. These were ships that served in 1652-1653, some with the same captain.
In some cases, the nominal lasts do not match the dimensions (such as the Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-87876225106459969692010-09-04T14:23:00.000-07:002010-09-04T14:26:41.853-07:00The Battle of Dunkirk in early 1639Our faithful reader and fellow researcher found this page that seems to give the names of the five Dutch warships in the foreground in the Van de Velde drawing of the Battle of Dunkirk on 18 February 1639: the Rotterdam, the Nassau, the Prins Hendrik, the ‘Deventer’ and the Aemilia.Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-78646000712659011332010-07-22T05:50:00.000-07:002010-07-22T05:53:42.399-07:0022 July 1652Today, July 22, 2010, is the anniversary of the English attack on the Dutch fishing fleet and fishery protection squadron on 22 July 1652, off the coast of Scotland. Amazingly, we do not have an accurate list of ships with all the details for the fishery protection squadron. The First Dutch War, Vol.I, reprinted, in translated form, the list of ships from the Hollandsche Mercurius from 1652. I Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-5832377385167072862010-07-19T12:08:00.001-07:002010-07-19T16:33:56.283-07:00I had not realized that Teemu Koivumäki's site is goneI was surprised to find that Teemu Koivumäki's website about sailing warships is gone. That is too bad, as it was a good, online resource. UPDATE: just the URL has changed: Sailing WarshipsJimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-60787260690561748342010-07-13T05:25:00.000-07:002010-07-13T05:29:55.524-07:00The Middelburg, a Middelburg Directors' shipJan Le Sage commanded the Middelburg Directors' ship Gulden Haan, a 36-gun ship, at the Battle of Portland, but he apparently commanded a different ship in 1652. Hendrick de Raedt's pamphlet gives his ship as a 30-gun ship with a crew of 105 men with Tromp's fleet in July and August 1652. From the letter written by Johan Evertsen in mid-August, after returning from the Shetlands, we see that Jan Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-32166283398166867912010-07-06T07:50:00.000-07:002010-07-06T07:54:04.034-07:00Is there a key to the ships in the Zeeslag bij Dunkirk drawing?I now have the drawing of the Zeeslag bij Dunkirk (18 February 1639) as my desktop picture. Is there a key to the ships in the drawing? Willem van de Velde de Oude clearly had specific ships in mind when he created the drawing. Each ship seems to be a portrait.Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-88722207633319080922010-06-28T06:10:00.000-07:002010-06-28T06:12:24.100-07:00The sea battle at Dunkirk on 18 February 1639Wikipedia has a good, high-resolution image of the drawing by Willem van de Velde, the Elder, of the sea battle at Dunkirk on 18 February 1639. Could someone with knowledge about the upper stern pictures could tell what ships are depicted?Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6056056.post-57350149656873017252010-06-11T06:48:00.000-07:002010-06-11T06:56:09.683-07:00My ancestor, Matilda LehmanMy ancestor, Matilda Lehman, was born 18 Oct 1812. Her son, Solomon Lehman Beardsley, told the census workers twice that his mother was born in Holland. I take that to mean the Netherlands. I don't know a birth location. Earlier censuses give her birth place as Ohio (twice). Her son was the one who said that she was born in Holland. Solomon Beardsley was the father of my great-grandmother, Jesse Jimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07843351294592716332noreply@blogger.com