Discussion devoted mainly to the Anglo-Dutch Wars (at sea), including ships, battles, and persons. Our website, kentishknock.com, is the primary outlet for artwork, research results, and more formal analysis and commentary. Copyright (c) 2003-2007 James C. Bender
Friday, December 26, 2008
De Reede van Texel diorama
Sunday, December 07, 2008
A list from 24 July 1661
Sunday, November 30, 2008
The plan for Dutch ships in 1652
Friday, November 28, 2008
"We gather together"
A few big guns on small Dutch ships
Zeeuwsche Leeuw 2-bronze 24pdr Westcappel 2-bronze 16pdr Amsterdam 2-bronze 24pdr, 2-bronze 20pdr Wapen van Zeeland 2-bronze 18pdr (the ship of Joost Willemsz Block) Hollandia (in 1652) 4-bronze 24pdr, 4-bronze 18pdr, 2-bronze 15pdr (Johan Evertsen's flagship)
Monday, November 17, 2008
Dirck Cleuter
Sunday, November 09, 2008
Someone asked me about my ancestry
This morning, I was talking to my fellow "greeter" and she asked me about my ancestry, given my last name. That question got me thinking again about Matilda Lehman (not Lemon), who married a Beardsley in the 19th Century. Her son told the 1870 census taker that his mother was born in Holland. Other indications were that she was born in Ohio, but I can accept that she might have in fact been born in Holland, in the early 19th Century. What I have learned over the last few months was that the name Lehman was associated with Anabaptists in Germany and the Netherlands in the 17th Century.
The Beardsleys apparently had the custom of greeting men in the family by their middle name. My grandfather was called Moore. The president of Miles Laboratories, who thought of the idea for Alka Seltzer, was called Hub or Hubble, his middle name. He was my great-grandmother's brother. In the 1950's, there was a Beardsley man who they called Lehman, obviously his middle name. They pronounced it Lay-man, not Lee-mon. The name came from my ancestor, Matilda Lehman.
Saturday, November 08, 2008
The French intelligence reports from the 1670's
Friday, October 17, 2008
"Swarten Pieter"
Sunday, October 12, 2008
Google Books
Friday, October 03, 2008
It turns out that I have lists from 12 September 1653 that I need to use
Thursday, October 02, 2008
Thurloe's State Papers
Thursday, September 25, 2008
Legier Pietersz (van Cruyningen)
Legier Pietersz (van Cruyningen) about 1540-1 May 1620 Zeeuwsche kapitein in 1583 1588 probably served under Loncq against the Armada. 1592 captured a Dunkirker. 1595 distinguished himself at Dunkirk in the blockade fleet, attacked two privateers at Calais. 1597 off Spain under Duivenvoorde. 1599 was wounded in a fight against a galleon from Sluys. 1600 fought under Evertsen at Lillo and captured a Spanish admiral from Antwerp. 1603 distinguished himself in a sea fight off Sluys. 1606 flag captain for Haultain in the expedition to Spain, dismissed from the service due to his old age and wounds. Source: J. C. Mollema, De Eere Rol, from Geschiedenis van Nederland ter Zee, Vol.II, 1940.
Tuesday, September 23, 2008
The latest questions
Saturday, September 13, 2008
How large is a 110 last ship?
The Friesland ship Omlandia, said to have been built in 1628
Friday, September 12, 2008
The Groote Vergulde Fortuijn
Tuesday, September 09, 2008
A list from June 1652
Monday, September 08, 2008
The 38 ships of the 100 hired by 9 June 1652
8 from Rotterdam 11 from Amsterdam 7 from Zeeland 7 from the Noorderkwartier 5 from Friesland
We know that some of these ships were actually built as warships. Some were sold or laid up after 1648, at the Peace. Some ships of that sort were reactivated after July 1651 as part of the 36 ships (variously mentioned as between 35 and 37 ships). Even the newly built warship Campen (40 guns) was funded by the 100 ships appropriation.
Monday, September 01, 2008
A new version of my picture of the Huis van Nassau sailing for the Sound in 1645 from the Vlie
Sunday, August 24, 2008
My translation of Dr. Elias on the storm off the Texel in November, 1653
The Zeeland Directors’ ship Gekroonde Liefde was the first, having been stranded on the shore at the Huisduinen on Sunday afternoon, November 9, at 2 o'clock. The whole crew, Captain Hartman included, met their end in the waves. The entire night the storm continued to rage with undiminished strength; but on, November 10, the fourth day, Monday, under dense hailstorms and hunting snow, the storm reached its peak. The Directors’ ships, particularly, which were generally sparingly provided with anchors and cables, had struggled to resist the hurricane. Of the many vessels which were stripped of their anchors and drifted landwards, the majority were of the Directors. Against two war ships of the state (the Gouda of Amsterdam under captain Ooms, who with the loss of half of its crew, was stranded on the beach at Petten, and the Prins Willem, of the Noorderkwartier, under captain Boermans, who was found with 12 dead men) there were six of the different Directors lost, on this unfortunate day. Of them, on the head of Petten, the Koning David, of Amsterdam, and the Sint Vincent, of Friesland, and at the Oog, the Moorin, of Amsterdam, and the Graaf Hendrick, of Friesland, were thrown on the shore. Only a small part of those on board survived; the captains, Vogelsanck, of the Koning David, and Wagenaar, of the Graaf Hendrick, were drowned. The Zeeland Directors’ ship, the Luipaard, under captain Tiebij, sank with man and mouse and also the Koning Radbout, of the Directors of Medemblick, became victims of the waves, as well as the East-Indian Company’s cruiser Gerechtigheid (under captain Swart, who perished with the majority of his crew) along with the two Zeeland provision fluits.
Friday, August 22, 2008
More about Anthonis van Salingen
Sunday, August 17, 2008
The Sneuper-Dokkum blog
Saturday, August 16, 2008
The Warships blog
Sunday, August 10, 2008
Nicholas de With
Saturday, August 02, 2008
"Sleutels van de Sont"
Sunday, July 27, 2008
Dutch ship armaments in 1665
Friday, July 25, 2008
Abel Roelantsz
Friday, July 18, 2008
The Gewapende Ruyter
Sunday, July 13, 2008
My possible Dutch connection
Wednesday, July 09, 2008
Bronze 15pdr guns
Friday, July 04, 2008
Copper 6pdr guns for the Gorcum
Tuesday, June 17, 2008
Amsterdam ships completed in the summer of 1653
Sunday, June 15, 2008
My estimate of the 1628 bronze 24pdr drake gun weight
Saturday, June 14, 2008
I have more from Nico Brinck
Friday, June 13, 2008
I need to calibrate my formula for Dutch guns
Dutch gun speculation
Monday, June 09, 2008
Dutch guns
Wednesday, June 04, 2008
Hosting for two sites is down
Sunday, June 01, 2008
My current short project
Tuesday, May 27, 2008
Saturday, May 24, 2008
The ship Edam in English service
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
The Wkipedia page on the Brederode
Saturday, May 17, 2008
Yet another source that says that the Graaf Hendrick was a Groningen Directors' ship
Thursday, May 15, 2008
The Goeree Gat
Monday, May 12, 2008
A list of ships from 30 June 1652
Thursday, May 01, 2008
The Friesland ship Groningen
Tuesday, April 29, 2008
Yes, the pictures are "after" the Willem van de Velde de Oude drawings
The Battle of Dungeness picture
Roger Morrice and his World: a workshop
NEW DIRECTIONS IN LATE STUART HISTORY
Roger Morrice and his World: a workshop
Sunday, April 27, 2008
A slightly different and possibly improved picture from Dungeness
A "photo" from the Battle of Dungeness on 10 December 1652 (new style)
My improved photo from the Battle of Livorno
Saturday, April 26, 2008
A "photo" of a Dutch ship at the Battle of Livorno in 1653
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
The Dutch fleet right before the Battle of Scheveningen
Monday, April 21, 2008
Lists of ships at the Battle of Scheveningen
Saturday, April 19, 2008
One disappointment
Friday, April 18, 2008
So, what ship would Bartel Simonszoon have commanded on 12 June 1653?
Monday, April 14, 2008
The Dutch fleet lying off Vlissingen on 23 June 1653
Monday, April 07, 2008
Confirmation
Five Convoyers Adm Ship guns captain R Gelderland 20 Aert van Nes R Gorcum 30 Jan Jansz van Nes R Schiedam 30 Dirck Juynbol R Dordrecht 26 Sier de Liefde R Rotterdam 30 Jan Aertsz Verhaeff Two for the Mediterranean Sea R Gelderland 40 Michiel Fransz van den Burgh R Brederode 54 Lt-Adm Maerten Harpertsz Tromp Four in the North Sea R Wapen van Rotterdam 26 Jacob van Boshuijsen R Prinses Roijael Marie 34 Joost Willemsz van Coulster R Prinses Louise 36 Vice-Admiraal Witte de With R Holland 30 Hendrick de Munnick Two in Brazil R Dolphijn 28 Marinus de Clercq R Nimwegen 26 Paulus van den Kerckhoff Eight ships of the 100 ships R Maria 26 Quirijn van den Kerckhoff R Gulden Beer 24 Jan de Haes R Sphera Mundi 26 Reijnout Venhuijsen R Hollandia 24 Hendrick Ernestus de Bartrij R Roscam 26 Corstiaen Eldertszoon R Calmer Sleutel 24 Dirck Vijgh R Overijssel 22 Cornelis Engelen Silvergieter R Utrecht 22 Leendert Haexwant
Wednesday, April 02, 2008
My Dutch family connection
Sunday, March 30, 2008
Dutch guns
Sunday, March 23, 2008
The list on pages 156 and157 of The First Dutch War, Vol.VI
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
Ship armaments
Saturday, March 08, 2008
Comments on some Zeeland ships
Vreudenhil's number Name Guns Date Length Captain 67 Zeelandia 32 1642 122ft Andries Pietersz den Boer 217 Zeelandia 32 1648 118ft Jan Naelhout 315 Zeeuwsche Leeuw 27 116ft Cornelis Evertsen de Oude (in the original documents, the ship is not called the Wapen van Zeeland) not listed Wapen van Zeeland 34 116ft Joost Willemsz BlockVreugdenhil seems to have confused two different ships, mixing the information for the Zeeuwsche Leeuw with the name of Joost Willemsz Block's ship. Cornelis Evertsen de Oude's ship served with Tromp's fleet while the other three served in the Mediterranean Sea during 1652 and 1653.
A. Vreugdenhil, Ships of the United Netherlands 1648-1702, 1938.
Saturday, March 01, 2008
Abraham van der Hulst's ship on 29 July 1652
Friday, February 22, 2008
The Noorderkwartier ship Hollandsche Tuin
Monday, February 18, 2008
J. C. De Jonge's list from March 1653
Saturday, February 16, 2008
The Three Days Battle or Battle of Portland
Sunday, February 10, 2008
Did Dirk Gerritsz Pomp command the St. Jan Battista?
Thursday, February 07, 2008
Friesland ships
2 Convoyers 2 in the North Sea 2 in Brazil 5 of the 17-1/2ships of the 100and this:
Directors Friesland 2 Stadt en Landen 1
200 last ships
Sunday, February 03, 2008
The Vogelstruis
Friday, February 01, 2008
Claes Jansz Sanger in early August 1653
Wednesday, January 30, 2008
A challenge
Admiralty or Directors Ship Harlingen Directors Sint Vincent 28 guns Harlingen Directors Vergulde Pelicaen 28 guns a possible ship hired by the Groningen Directors Noorderkwartier Vergulde Schel, 24 guns Noorderkwartier Peereboom 24 guns Noorderkwartier Tobias 30 guns Noorderkwartier Profeet Samuel 30 guns Noorderkwartier Lastdrager 28 guns Noorderkwartier Mars 34 or 38 guns Noorderkwartier Alkmaar 26 guns ('s-Landsschip) Noorderkwartier Roode Leeuw 24 guns Noorderkwartier Huis van Nassau 24 or 28 guns Noorderkwartier Burgh van Alkmaar 24 or 28 guns ('s-Landsschip) Noorderkwartier Adam en Eva 24 guns Noorderkwartier Sampson 24 or 26 guns ('s-Landsschip) Noorderkwartier Stad Medemblick 26 or 32 guns ('s-Landsschip) Noorderkwartier Nieuw Kasteel 14 guns Noorderkwartier Arke Noach 24 guns Noorderkwartier St. Jan Baptist 24 guns Noorderkwartier Wapen van Holland 30 guns Noorderkwartier Prins Maurits 28 or 32 guns ('s-Landsschip) Noorderkwartier Herder Amsterdam Jonas 26 guns Amsterdam Gewapende Ruyter 36 guns ('s-Landsschip) Rotterdam Directors Erasmus Rotterdam Directors Sint Pieter 28 guns Sijmon Cornelisz van der Meer Rotterdam Directors Sint Pieter 29 guns Isaac de Jongh Rotterdam Directors Jonas 36 guns Rotterdam Directors Meerman 32 guns Rotterdam Directors Prins 38 guns Rotterdam Directors Hollandia 26 or 28 guns Ruth Jacobsz Buijs Rotterdam Gulden Beer 24 guns Rotterdam Maria 24 guns Rotterdam Hollandia 24 guns Hendrick Ernestus de Bartrij Rotterdam Roscam 26 guns Medemblick Directors Koning Radboud 28 guns Harderin Purmerland Zeeland Wapen van Keulen 30 guns Zeeland Hasewind 28 guns ('s-Landsschip)
Monday, January 21, 2008
Friesland Directors' ships in 1652
Monday, January 14, 2008
The Brederode in June 1653
The ship Brederode crew of 260 men 54 guns: 4-36pdr, 20-24pdr, 20-12pdr, 10-6pdr 14,000 lbs of gunpowder 100 36 pound shot 1000 24 pound shot 1000 12 pound shot 400 6 pound shotI would imagine that the lower tier consisted of the 4-36pdr and 20-24pdr guns The upper tier would be the 20-12pdr guns. The quarterdeck would be armed with the 10-6pdr guns.
Sunday, January 13, 2008
The Amsterdam pound versus the English pound (weights)
To put things in perspective: gun weights
Sakers from the Revenge, all 7ft long: 13 cwt-3qtr-0lbs: 1540 lbs 14 cwt-3qtr-13lbs: 1665 lbs 15 cwt-1qtr-18lbs: 1726 lbs 15 cwt-1qtr-14lbs: 1722 lbs 16 cwt-1qtr-21lbs: 1841 lbs 14 cwt-2qtr-6lbs: 1630 lbs 16 cwt-0qtr-14lbs: 1806 lbs 13 cwt-1qtr-24lbs: 1508 lbsThe two Falcons are much smaller guns, although they are also 7ft guns:
8cwt-0qtr-21lbs: 917 lbs 8cwt-2qtr-19lbs: 971 lbsUsing my empirical equation for guns, I estimate a weight of 973 lbs for a 7ft long iron Falcon firing a 3-1/2 pound shot, which closely matches the Revenge guns.
The Alderney Guns
All the shot so far recovered is of 78 – 80 mm (3? inches) diameter which reinforces our current view that the guns are all the same, that is to say 7 foot long, cast iron, smooth bore, muzzle loaders of 3½ inch bore and 14 hundredweight (1568 lbs)
I tried my empiracle calculations and I would have said that I would expect 4 pound shot, for the shot diameter and the gun weight. My first idea was that it would be a Falcon, firing 3-1/2 pound shot. I have trouble believing the gun weight of 1568 lbs. For the shot diameter given, that would make for an extremely heavy gun, outside of the range with which I have seen. I concede that for the shot diameter, it must be a Falcon, not a Minion (4pdr). My problem is that the gun weight and length are more like a Dutch 6pdr iron gun. For that small of a shot weight, a similar Dutch gun would be a bit less than a 1000 lbs.