Discussion devoted mainly to the Anglo-Dutch Wars (at sea), including ships, battles, and persons. Our website, kentishknock.com, is the primary outlet for artwork, research results, and more formal analysis and commentary. Copyright (c) 2003-2007 James C. Bender
Sunday, April 30, 2006
I like how my English-to-Dutch conversion factors work
One of the Dutch fishery protection vessels taken on 22 July 1652
English measurements: Length on the keel: 84ft Beam outside of the planking: 25.5ft Depth in hold at the center: 9.67ft Estimated Dutch Dimensions in Amsterdam feet (283mm): Length from stem to sternpost: 112ft Beam inside the planking: 29ft Hold at the side: 11ftI have seen estimates that there were as many as 15 ships in the fishery protection squadron in Dr. Elias's book, Schetsen uit de Geschiedenis van ons Zeewezen, Vol.II. We know the identities of 13 of these ships, although fewer of the captains. I have wondered if another Dutch prize used by the English, the Sophia, taken in 1652, might have been an otherwise unknown member of the fishery protection squadron. The Sophia's dimensions and estimates are as follows:
English measurements: Length on the keel: 90ft Beam outside of the planking: 26ft Depth in hold at the center: 11ft Estimated Dutch Dimensions in Amsterdam feet (283mm): Length from stem to sternpost: 120ft Beam inside the planking: 29.5ft Hold at the side: 12.5ftThe Sophia seems to be too large, though, to have been relegated to the fishery protection squadron. She carried as many as 34 guns in the English service. Her other name was Speaker's Prize. The only question is where she came from. My own parochial view of the Battle of the Kentish Knock is that the only two Dutch losses were the Maria (Claes Sael's ship) taken as prize and the Burgh van Alkmaar (Gerrit Nobel's ship), which was destroyed by explosion. Perhaps the "Sophia" (we don't know her Dutch name) was a merchant prize that was good enough to be taken into the English naval service.
Saturday, April 29, 2006
Dutch ships taken by the English in the First Anglo-Dutch War
English Name Guns Year Dutch Name Adm Violet 38 1652 Bear 36 1652/3 Zwarte Beer Mo-Dir Raven 38 1652 Princess Maria 38 1652 Prinses Roijaal Marie R Welcome 36 1652 Stork 36 1652 Arms of Holland 30 1652 Wapen van Holland NQ Sophia 26 1652 Peter 1652 Middelburgh 32 1652 Middelburg A Waterhound 32 1652 Waterhond R Tulip 32 1652 Oak 28 1652 Ackerboom Dolphin 30 1652 Falcon Flyboat 28 1652 Valck Sampson 26 1652 Sampson van Enkhuizen En-Dir? Paul 22-30 1652 Paulus R Falmouth 26 1652 Wapen van Rotterdam R Sampson 26 1652 Sampson van Hoorn NQ Advantage 26 1652 Eendracht Plover 26 1652 Morgenster Adam en Eva 20 1652 Adam en Eva A John Baptist 22 1652 Sint Jan Baptist A Mathias 38-52 1653 Sint Matheeus A-Dir Great Charity 36-46 1653 Groote Liefde A-Dir Black Raven 38 1653 Katherine 36 1653 Catharina A-Dir Golden Cock 36 1653 Vergulde Haan Mi-Dir Elias 36 1653 Elias A-Dir Little Charity 32-28 1653 Liefde Pelican prize 34-36 1653 Vergulde Pelicaen A-Dir Fortune 32-26 1653 Fortuijn Half Moom 30-36 1653 Halve Maan Mo-Dir Westergate 26-34 1653 Westergo F Rosebush 24-34 1653 Rooseboom A-Dir Augustine 26-32 1653 Church 20-26 1653 King David, storeship 1653 Koning David Estridge, hulk 1653 Vogelstruis A-VOC Indian 1654 Roos, East Indiaman A-VOCAt least some of these were captured merchantman, such as the Indian, taken very close to the end of the war. Hopefully, I have included all Dutch prizes, and none that are not Dutch.
Friday, April 28, 2006
New information
Thursday, April 27, 2006
Allert Janszoon and the Dubbele Arend (beating the topic to death)
Wednesday, April 26, 2006
So what ship did Allert Janszoon command in the First Anglo-Dutch War?
Tuesday, April 25, 2006
Tromp's fleet in May 1652 was largely composed of Directors' ships
Monday, April 24, 2006
Paulus van den Kerckhoff commanded the Nijmegen
Sunday, April 23, 2006
De Sneuper on Joost Bulter and the Kameel
- H. T. Colenbrander, Bescheiden uit vreemde archieven omtrent de groote Nederlandsche zeeoorlogen 1652-1676, 1919
- Eimert Smits, De Sneuper web site, Vereniging van Archiefonderzoekers te Dokkum
- List of ships at Vlissingen in July 1653, 1653
Saturday, April 22, 2006
Joost Bulter's ship
Joost Bulter commanded a brand new ship at the Battle of the Gabbard. This was a ship that had been recently built for the Admiralty of Friesland, perhaps as part of the new building program. That might mean that we would know the ship's approximate dimensions: about 130ft x 32ft x 12ft. Perhaps the new Zevenwolden was of a similar size.
I realized that Dr. Ballhausen had a reference about Joost Bulter's ship from The Life of Richard Deane, one of the more obscure books that I own. On page 649 of that biography, it says that Joost Bulter's sunken ship carried 42 guns. The ship is not mentioned by name.
On page 94 of Dr. Elias's book, Schetsen uit de Geschiedenis van ons Zeewezen, Vol.V, Joost Bulter's ship is named Kameel.
Vol.V of The First Dutch War, on page 22, has C. T. Atkinson's translation of Tromp's account of the Battle of the Gabbard from Aitzema, Vol.III, page 821. I happen to own Aitzema (Saken van Staet en Oorlogh), and the statement is actually "capiteyn Joost Bulter van Stadt en Lande". C. T. Atkinson had translated this as "Captain Joost Bulter of the Town and Country", as if the name of his ship was named Stad en Lande, a very plausible Friesland ship name. Stad en Lande is much more plausible than Kameel, to my mind. The whole passage translated by Atkinson is: "There was also lost in the heat of the struggle Captain Joost Bulter of the Town and Country which went down with about thirty men, the rest being saved by Captain Willem van der Zaan, who was next to the sinking ship, and that evening the enemy's fleet was reinforced by six or seven ships, some say more." My reading would be that Joost Bulter was from the "Stad en Lande" (Groningen).
In Oud Holland 17 (1899), my translation of the passage from the article about Willem van de Velde de Oude says:
"While De Ruijter thus won the wind from Lawson, Tromp's squadron lay between those of Lawson and Monk, and the first of these was caught between two fires. This masterly tactic achieved only partial success, because Monk and Lawson quickly could recover, and because Tromp's guns were not strong enough to sufficiently damage even a weaker enemy in a short time, and to put them out of the battle. 1) The struggle was now a general melee, where by the English broke through Dutch fleet to win the windward side. In this furious battle, we look for Lawson to cut off the captains Willem van der Zaan and Joost Bulter. The ship of the last, the Kameel, sank; Van der Zaan rescued himself. One hour after sunset, the ship of Cornelis van Velsen blew up, due to gunpowder in the air. The night brought an end to the struggle. Both fleets drifted, due to wind and tide, towards the Flemish coast, not far from Nieuport."
The Oud Holland article, therefore, also calls Joost Bulter's ship the Kameel.
Friday, April 21, 2006
Egbert Meeuwssen Kortenaer's squadron
- Johan E. Elias, Schetsen uit de geschiedenis van ons zeewezen, Vol.VI, 1930
- Carl Stapel, personal communication "abel roelantz", 2005
Thursday, April 20, 2006
In September 1653, Egbert Meeuwssen Kortenaer was an acting flag officer
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol. VI, 1930
- Luc Eekhout, Het Admiralenboek: De Vlagofficieren van de Nederlandse marine 1382-1991, 1992
- Johan E. Elias, Schetsen uit de geschiedenis van ons zeewezen, Vol.V, 1928
- Michael S. Robinson, Van de Velde Paintings, Vol.I, 1990
Strategy in the First Anglo-Dutch War
Wednesday, April 19, 2006
We now know the name of Jacob Claesz Boet's ship
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2005
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
- Carl Stapel, personal communication "221 Monnikendam-dir Zwarte Beer", 2006
Tuesday, April 18, 2006
A possible candidate for the Sampson commanded by Robert Plumleigh
Monday, April 17, 2006
English Captain: Robert Plumleigh
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.V, 1912
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol. VI, 1930
Sunday, April 16, 2006
Larger Noorderkwartier ships from 1625 to the 1640's
Eenhoorn, 30 guns Built 1625 (the "Patriarch" of the Dutch fleet) 200 lasts Length: 125ft Beam: 29ft Hold: 12ft (estimated) Guns: 7-iron 12pdr 13-iron 10pdr 4-iron 8pdr 2-iron 6pdr 2-iron 4pdr 2-iron 3pdr Eendracht, 41 guns Built 1639 220 lasts (estimated) Length: 130ft Beam: 32ft Hold: 12ft Guns: 4-brass 24pdr 2-brass 18pdr 4-brass 12pdr 2-brass 9pdr 4-brass 6pdr 2-brass 4pdr 8-iron 18pdr 8-iron 12pdr 7-iron 8pdr Prinses Roijael, 26 guns Built 1641 Length: 125ft Beam: 30ft Hold: 11.5ft Guns: 2-brass 24pdr 2-brass 18pdr 4-brass 6pdr 4-iron 12pdr 12-iron 8pdr Jonge Prins, 28 guns Built 1634 Length: 120ft Beam: 28ft Hold: 11.5ft Guns: 2-brass 24pdr 2-brass 12pdr 8-iron 12pdr 8-iron 8pdr 2-iron 5pdr 4-iron 4pdr 2-iron 2pdr Monnikendam, 38 guns Built 1644 (Pieter Florissen's flagship in the First Anglo-Dutch War) Length: 120ft Beam: 28.5ft Hold: 11ft Guns: 2-brass 12pdr 6-brass 6pdr 8-iron 18pdr 8-iron 12pdr 2-iron 10pdr 4-iron 6pdr 6-iron 4pdr 2-iron 3pdr Wapen van Enkhuizen, 34 guns Built 1645 Length: 120ft Beam: 29ft Hold: 11.75ft Guns: 2-brass 18pdr 6-brass 6pdr 10-iron 12pdr 9-iron 8pdr 5-iron 5pdr 2-iron 3pdrAll this data is from the Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654 (the date is July 1654).
Saturday, April 15, 2006
English Captain: Edward Barrett
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- R. C. Anderson, Lists of Men-of-War 1650-1700: Part I English Ships 1649-1702, 1966
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol. VI, 1930
Friday, April 14, 2006
I can add to the biography of Pieter Adriaanszoon van Blocker
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
- Dr. Carl Ballhausen, Der Erste Englisch-Höllandische Seekrieg 1652-1654, 1923
- Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.I, 1898
- Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.II, 1900
- Dr. S. R. Gardiner, and C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.III, 1906
- W. J. van Hoboken, Witte de With in Brazilië, 1955
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
Thursday, April 13, 2006
I can augment my earlier article about Jacob Andrieszoon Swart
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Directors' Ship Information 1652-1653", 2004
- Gerard Brandt, Het Leven en Bedrijif van den Heere Michiel de Ruiter, 1687
- Frank Fox, A Distant Storm: the Four Days' Battle of 1666, 1996
- G. W. Kernkamp, De Sleutels van de Sont, 1890
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
- Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654, July 1654
A small Brederode poster is now available
This is an alternate look product line for the Brederode, although the image size didn't make for a good poster of any size. The pictures don't show the color and shade variations well, as the bottom one has lighter blues, while the upper one has a darker, browner tone:
Wednesday, April 12, 2006
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English Captain: Peter Whittey (Whitty, or White)
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- R. C. Anderson, Lists of Men-of-War 1650-1700: Part I English Ships 1649-1702, 1966
- J. R. Powell, The Navy in the English Civil War, 1962
So, how about Anglo-Dutch Wars blog gear, posters, and books?
Tuesday, April 11, 2006
English Captain: Nicholas Heaton
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- R. C. Anderson, Lists of Men-of-War 1650-1700: Part I English Ships 1649-1702, 1966
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol. VI, 1930
- Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.I, 1898
Monday, April 10, 2006
The two Genoese ships in the First Anglo-Dutch War
Ship Length Beam Hold Brass Guns Iron Guns Huis te Zwieten 146ft 36ft 14ft 10-24pdr,6-12pdr,10-6pdr 16-18pdr,18-12pdr Huis te Kruiningen 140ft 34ft 13.5ft 6-18pdr,6-12pdr,8-6pdr drakes 18-18pdr,16-8pdrThe two ships were girdled after the storm in early November 1653. The Huis te Zwieten eventually was given to the VOC, and served in the Second Anglo-Dutch War, in 1665, until she was taken by the English. Frank Fox has said that she was the best Dutch ship taken by the English.
Sunday, April 09, 2006
The Dutch ship Prins in 1653
Saturday, April 08, 2006
There is an interesting discussion of the Dutch participation in the Armada campaign in 1588
Friday, April 07, 2006
Dutch Captain: Jan Duijm
- list of ships dated 8 August 1658, Staten Generaal, 1.01.06, inventory number 12580.16
- G. L. Grove, Journalen van de Admiralen Van Wassenaer-Obdam (1658/59) en De Ruyter (1659/60), 1907
Thursday, April 06, 2006
English Captain: Thomas Keysar
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- R. C. Anderson, Lists of Men-of-War 1650-1700: Part I English Ships 1649-1702, 1966
Wednesday, April 05, 2006
Roberto Barrazzuti will be presenting at a symposium in September 2006
Tuesday, April 04, 2006
I just received my copy of De Admiraliteit van Amsterdam in Rustige Jaren 1713-1751
Monday, April 03, 2006
Dutch Captain: Andries de Boer
- R. C. Anderson, "The First Dutch War in the Mediterranean," The Mariner's Mirror, Vol.49, No.4, November 1963
- Johan E. Elias, Schetsen uit de Geschiedenis van ons Zeewezen, Vol.III, 1925
- "Staet van Oorlog te Water" for the year 1654
Sunday, April 02, 2006
Dutch Captain: Jan Hollaer (Hollare)
- Carl Stapel, personal communication "more findings about Zeeland", 10 February 2006
- Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1628
- Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1629
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Tweede Nederlandse Engelse vloot in12 november 1626 tot 10 juli 1627 naar Spanje", 18 June 2005
Saturday, April 01, 2006
English Captain: Robert Storey
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- R. C. Anderson, Lists of Men-of-War 1650-1700: Part I English Ships 1649-1702, 1966
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
- Michael Baumber, General-at-Sea, 1989