- R. C. Anderson, "English Fleet-Lists in the First Dutch War," The Mariner's Mirror, Vol.XXIV No.4, October 1938
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- J. R. Powell, The Navy in the English Civil War, 1962
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Thursday, March 30, 2006
English Captain: John Barker
Wednesday, March 29, 2006
English Captain: Abraham Allgate
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- R. C. Anderson, Lists of Men-of-War 1650-1700: Part I English Ships 1649-1702, 1966
Tuesday, March 28, 2006
Dutch Captain: Schelte Wichelma (or Wiglema)
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
- A. Vreugdenhil, Ships of the United Netherlands 1648-1702, 1938
Monday, March 27, 2006
English Captain: John Andrews
- Frank Fox, A Distant Storm: the Four Days' Battle of 1666, 1996
- David Syrett, R. L. DiNardo, The Commissioned Sea Officers of the Royal Navy 1660-1815, 1994
- J.R. Tanner, A Descriptive Catalogue of the Naval Manuscripts in the Pepysian Library at Magdalene College, Cambridge, Vol.I, 1903
Sunday, March 26, 2006
The Monnikendam, by July 1654
The best of the Amsterdam Directors' ships seem to have had a complete lower tier of 12pdrs
All Dutch ships except for the smallest frigates had two complete decks, until the 1660's, when the first three-decked ships appeared. The smaller Amsterdam Directors' ships seem to have had a lower tier of mixed 12pdr and 8pdr guns. The better ships had either a complete lower tier of 12pdrs or 12pdrs with a few larger guns.
One example is the Kroon Imperiael, commanded by Cornelis Janszoon Poort and sunk at the Battle of Portland. On 27 March 1652, the Kroon Imperiael is listed with 20-12pdr guns, 14-6pdr, and 4-4pdr guns. The probable armament scheme was probably a complete lower tier of 12pdrs, the 14-6pdrs on the upper tier, with an unarmed waist, and the 4-4pdrs on the quarterdeck. From 8 November 1652 until her loss, she apparently had 2-brass 24pdr and 16-12pdr on the lower tier and 12-6pdr on the upper deck with an unarmed waist. The guns on the quarterdeck were now 4-3pdrs.
Another ship, the Groote Liefde, had the same armament from the beginning. On both 27 March 1652 and on 8 November 1652, the Groote Liefde had 2-brass 24pdr and 18-12pdr, all probably on the lower tier. The upper tier had 14-6pdr, probably with an unarmed waist. She also had 4-3pdr on the quarterdeck.
The Moor lacked the 24pdrs. We know that on 28 January 1653, she carried 20-12pdr, probably all on the lower tier and 12-6pdr, probably all on the upper tier with an unarmed waist. She only had 2-3pdrs, probably on the quarterdeck, although possibly on a forecastle.
Other ships had a more mixed armament. For example, the Prins Maurits, commanded by Nicolaes de With and wrecked by bad piloting on 19 November 1652, had a more heterogenous armament. On 12 March 1652, when hired, she had 18-12pdr, probably all on the lower tier. She probably had a mixed upper tier, fairly sparsely armed and with an unarmed waist, having 6-6pdr and 6-4pdr. She also had 4-3pdr, probably on the quarterdeck. By 8 November 1652, she had 18-12pdr, still all probably on the lower tier, and now had 10-8pdr with 4-6pdr, probably on the upper tier with an unarmed waist. I would speculate that the 8pdrs were aft of the waist and the 6pdrs forward. She now had 2-3pdr, probably on the quarterdeck.
The Dutch were amazed at the Battle of the Kentish Knock, when they encountered what they considered to be small frigates armed with some 18pdrs. They really felt that they were out-gunned, especially given that the 2nd Rates had 32pdr demi-cannon and the two 1st Rates had 42pdr cannon. Their best ship, the Brederode, only had four 36pdrs, some 24pdr and 18pdr guns, probably all on the lower tier. The upper tier was armed with 12pdrs, with 6pdrs on the quarterdeck. The Dutch responded by adding guns to their ships. The 120ft-long Prinses Louise was upgunned to 46 guns by December 1652. This clearly was over-arming her, and they seemed to have backed off to a more reasonable number. Still, Pieter Florissen's ship, Monnikendam, went from 32 guns to 38 guns, and Jan Thyssen's Witte Lam went from 32 guns to 40 guns, when she was De Ruyter's flagship in 1653.
Saturday, March 25, 2006
A reader's inquiry: about Captain John Giles in Tangier in 1671
The Harlingen (Friesland) Directors' ships
Friday, March 24, 2006
I was impressed with Zoltán Petrofsky's ship models
Thursday, March 23, 2006
We know absolutely for sure, the captain and stierman of the Brederode on 14 June 1652
Wednesday, March 22, 2006
Two VOC 7-gun ships fought at Lowestoft
VOC ship 1 70 guns: 1-36pdr 4-24pdr 21-18pdr 20-12pdr 24-8 and 6pdr VOC ship 2 70 guns: 4-24pdr 22-18pdr 6-12pdr 20-8pdr 14-4pdr 4-smallerWe do know the armament of the Huis te Zwieten in 1654, which consisted of 60 guns, but this doesn't really help much with the armament in 1665:
10-24pdr 16-18pdr 24-12pdr 10-6pdr
Writing was precluded last night, as Blogger was down
Tuesday, March 21, 2006
Blogger was down last night, so nothing new got written
Sunday, March 19, 2006
I have corrected the post about the ships lost in the storm off the Texel in November 1653
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but I have been fixing all character issues and formatting in the entire blog
Saturday, March 18, 2006
More thoughts on Jacob Claeszoon Boet's ship
Dr. Ballhausen read Jodocus Hondius's book Onstelde-Zee, Oft Zee-Daden (1654) Dr. Ballhausen cites page 82 from that book as the reference for Jacob Claeszoon Boet's ship being the Leeuwin (32 guns and a crew of 115 men). The Leeuwin was a Monnikendam Directors's ship carrying 4-brass and 28-iron guns. If this is correct, then the ship at the Battle of Portland was not the Zeeland Director's ship, but this one. My list lists Jacob Claeszoon Boet's ship, with reservations, as being the Leeuwin.It still is true that Claes Janszoon's ship, the Leeuwin, was at the Battle of Portland, as he is mentioned as returning home with the 17 Zeeland ships after Portland. Sources:
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910.
- Dr. Carl Ballhausen, Der Erste Englisch-Höllandische Seekrieg 1652-1654, 1923.
- Jodocus Hondius, Onstelde-Zee, Oft Zee-Daden, 1654.
Friday, March 17, 2006
The Letters of Robert Blake
Thursday, March 16, 2006
Very belatedly, I am compiling a list of English and Dutch naval officers about whom I have written
Dutch Naval Officer: Hiddes Sjoerd de Vries
- Luc Eekhout, Het Admiralenboek: De Vlagofficieren van de Nederlandse marine 1382-1991, 1992.
- J. C. De Jonge, Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen, Vol.III, 1860.
Wednesday, March 15, 2006
The armament list for a Dutch 30-gun ship from 1616
Lower deck: 2-brass 24pdr 2-long 18pdr 2-short brass 18pdr 2-brass 12pdr 12-culverins, 18pdr Upper deck: 2-brass 6pdr 8-sakers, 5pdrSources:
- J. C. De Jonge, Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen, Vol.I, 1858.
Tuesday, March 14, 2006
Ship information from October 1700
Captain Built Ship Length Guns Lost Manart 1692 Gouda 160 74 1697 Philips? 1692 Reigersberg 156 72 1692 Hogenhoeck 1683 Hollandia 156 72 1698 Becker 1663 Wapen van Utrecht 147 66 1690 Zolem? 1683 Zelandia 145 64 1690 Schrijver 1696 Zeelant 145 64 1692 van der Goes 1683 Frieslant 145 64 1690 Konvent 1684 den Akerboom 140 60 1689 van der Zaen 1686 Castricum 138 50 1692 Lijnslager 1686 Beemster 138 50 1690 Nieulandt 1694 Maen? 138 50 1698
The Netherlands Map24.com is a fun tool
Monday, March 13, 2006
The Dunkirk naval force in 1634
King's ships numbers guns crew 1 48 300 1 34 200 1 30 150 14 24-26 130-140 2 18-22 130 1 14 1 6 Ships belonging to persons 3 8-12 8 4-6 The note says that most of these ships had brass guns. The latter of these ships operated from Nieuwpoort and Oostende.Sources:
- J. C. De Jonge, Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen, Vol.I, 1858.
Sunday, March 12, 2006
A tidbit from a document dated 18 March 1652
Ship the Croon Imperiael of Mr. Coimans Arrived in the Texel on 24 March 1652 130ft length 30ft beam 12-1/2 hold 7ft height between decks Guns in a side note: 2 24pdr brass of the state 16 12pdr of which 10 are brass 12 6pdr of which 2 are brass 2 3pdr The guns: 6 of 12lb iron 2 12lb brass 2 12lb brass 4 pieces 1/2 cartouwen 4 iron 12lb 2 brass 12lb 2 brass 6lb 12 of 6lb iron 4 of 4lb found with the ship 38 pieces total
Saturday, March 11, 2006
From a list of Rotterdam ships dated 11 January 1621
Leeuwinne 200 lasts kapitein Schrevel Jacobsz van Ruijmvelt Gelderlant 180 lasts kapitein Geen Schapenham Tonijn 80 lasts kapitein Jacob Jansz van Nieuvelt Bruijnvisch 80 lasts kapitein Claes Marinusz Juijnbol Hasewint 60 lasts kapitein Adriaen Hemheus ? Utrecht 300 lasts Lambrecht Hendricksz Hollandt 180 lasts Leendert Fransz Valch Leeuw 200 lasts Pieter Claesz Rochusz Tijger 160 lasts Lucas Jaspersz Goutvelt a ship 300 lasts a ship apparently being built Mars 40 lasts Pieter Dircksz Liesskint a ship ? Adriaen de Jong a jacht ? ? (a jacht of their prince) a ship ? ? a jacht ? Marinus Pietersz Hoelentrouer ?
Friday, March 10, 2006
Frank Fox's book Great Ships has appreciated in value
List of Rotterdam ships from 1629
1. the Neptunis 2. the Dolphijn 3. the Orangieboom 4. the Ewer 5. the Groene Draeck 6. Eendracht 7. the Leeuwinne, attacked 8. the jacht the Swarten Arent 9. the ship Gelderlant, of about 180 lasts, is on the last of October 1629, under Captain Cornelis Engelen Silvergieter, is sunk, on the land inspected ? 10. the Swarten Leeuw 11. the old Abraham 12. the Vliegende Arent 13. the Wassende Maen 14. Salamander attacked 15. the Bruijnvisch attacked 16. Cleyne Neptunis 17. St. Anthonis is on 5 September 1629 of 60 lasts inspected 18. Zeecalf 19. the Cleyne Orangieboom 20. Zeeridder, under Captain Cornelis Roemer, of 180 lasts on 3 November 1629 (the rest is not readable for me) 21. the Leeuw, attacked 22. the Jonas 23. the Tonijn 24. the Prins Hendrick, attacked (aangevocht?) 25. the Sonne (Zon) attacked 26. the Grasmaijer, attacked
Thursday, March 09, 2006
I received another book today: The Defeat of James Stuart's Armada 1692
The original Ark Royal, built in 1587
1599 1603 demi-cannon (32pdr) 4 4 cannon perrier (24pdr) 4 - culverin (18pdr) 12 14 demi-culverin (9pdr) 12 16 saker (5-1/4pdr) 6 6 port piece (9pdr, stone) 4 2 fowler ? 4 2Port Pieces and Fowlers were breach loaders. Originally, they were built up iron. They fired stone shot. Peter Kirsch writes that port pieces fired a 9 pound shot. Fowlers often were used to fire small pieces of metal, in scatter shot fashion, as they were used to fire against borders. Fowlers originally fired a solid stone shot, perhaps as big as 5 pounds. The bore was smaller than a port piece, which was about 5.5 inches in diameter. Sources:
- E. H. H. Archibald, The Fighting Ship in the Royal Navy AD897-1984, 1987
- J. J. Colledge, Ships of the Royal Navy, 2nd Ed., 1987.
- Peter Kirsch, The Galleon: Great Ships of the Armada Era, 1990
- John Knox Laughton, State Papers Relating to the Defeat of the Spanish Armada Anno 1588, Vol.I, 1894
- Michael Oppenheim, History of the Administration of the Royal Navy, 1896
Wednesday, March 08, 2006
I received a book today from Charbo's Antiquariaat
More from the article about Willem van de Velde de Oude in Oud Holland 17
Tromp, after his victory, accompanied the merchant vessels to the Isle of Rhé. On the way, he tooks several English ships as prizes. He stayed at the latitude of Bordeaux to wait for the return fleet. In the middle of February 1653, Tromp left Bordeaux, heading homeward with 70 warships and 150 merchant vessels. At the beginning of the same month, the English fleet, 50 ships strong, left form the Thames, and continuing, now also 70 ships strong, to the Channel. After the example of the Dutch fleet, they now divided into three squadrons, each with its own commander, and known by the color of the flags. Had Willem van de Velde the Elder joined one of these expeditions against the English in 1652? I have not been able to find any proof of that. He specified that he was at sea, in July, with Tromp, and on the unfortunate voyage [to the Shetlands] he would not have been present. In is highly improbable that he accompanied De Ruyter's squadron, as this served solely to escort merchant fleets. And he cannot be associated with the fleet of De With, which won 8 October was beaten. As we have seen, he made a notarized statement on 9 October in Amsterdam. Also, with Tromp's fleet on 1 December 1652 and in February 1653, he was probably not present.
The (online) International Journal of Naval History
Monday, March 06, 2006
English Captain: Thomas Lawson
- Frank Fox, "Hired Men-of-War, 1664-7", Part II, The Mariner's Mirror Vol.84 No.2 (May 1998).
- J.R. Tanner, A Descriptive Catalogue of the Naval Manuscripts in the Pepysian Library at Magdalene College, Cambridge, Vol.I, 1903.
A theory about Abraham van der Hulst's ship in 1652
Sunday, March 05, 2006
English Captain: John Whately and Thomas Whately
- Adm. 10/15, Ticket Office compilation, 1660-1685 (which gives dates officers were paid).
- J.R. Tanner, A Descriptive Catalogue of the Naval Manuscripts in the Pepysian Library at Magdalene College, Cambridge, Vol.I, 1903.
Saturday, March 04, 2006
English Captain: Joseph Sanders
- Frank Fox, A Distant Storm: the Four Days' Battle of 1666, 1996.
- J.R. Tanner, A Descriptive Catalogue of the Naval Manuscripts in the Pepysian Library at Magdalene College, Cambridge, Vol.I, 1903.
Friday, March 03, 2006
English Captain: Henry Hide
- Frank Fox, A Distant Storm: the Four Days' Battle of 1666, 1996.
- J.R. Tanner, A Descriptive Catalogue of the Naval Manuscripts in the Pepysian Library at Magdalene College, Cambridge, Vol.I, 1903.
Thursday, March 02, 2006
English Captain: Arthur Laughorne
- Frank Fox, A Distant Storm: the Four Days' Battle of 1666, 1996.
- David Syrett, R. L. DiNardo, The Commissioned Sea Officers of the Royal Navy 1660-1815, 1994.
- J.R. Tanner, A Descriptive Catalogue of the Naval Manuscripts in the Pepysian Library at Magdalene College, Cambridge, Vol.I, 1903.
I received my copy of Captain Warnsinck's book today
Wednesday, March 01, 2006
English Naval Officer: Samuel Wentworth
- Frank Fox, "Hired Men-of-War, 1664-7", Part II, The Mariner's Mirror Vol.84 No.2 (May 1998).
- David Syrett, R. L. DiNardo, The Commissioned Sea Officers of the Royal Navy 1660-1815, 1994.
- J.R. Tanner, A Descriptive Catalogue of the Naval Manuscripts in the Pepysian Library at Magdalene College, Cambridge, Vol.I, 1903.