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Tuesday, October 31, 2006
You can now download volumes of The First Dutch War from Google Book Search
I discovered, yesterday, that Google Book Search now makes the volumes of The First Dutch War that are not still under copyright available for download as pdf files. Finding them is a bit tricky, but it is really a great thing. That, along with Granville Penn's book about William Penn are a great help to research, as they are "searchable". For some reason, you can't just search for "The First Dutch War", but have to search for content. For some reason "robert blake 1652 dover" got me to Vol.III of The First Dutch War. I got to Vol.II by searching for "Michiel De Ruyter". I found Vol.I by using "sir george ayscue 1652".
Monday, October 30, 2006
Lieutenants who commanded in 1653
Of the list of lieutenants, these are ones who commanded Amsterdam Directors' ships in 1653:
Adm Ship Guns Crew Commander A-Dir Moorin Cornelis Cornelisz Jol A-Dir Koning David Dirck Hendricksz Vogelsang A-Dir Gideon Ulrich Claesz de Jager A-Dir Gideon Dirck Jansz Somer A-Dir Rozeboom Bartholomeus RietbeeckSources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Directors Ship Information", 2004
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Sunday, October 29, 2006
Lieutenants of Amsterdam Directors' ships in early 1652
There is an undated list of ship names, captains, lieutenants, and crew numbers from early 1652, possibly from March. Many of the lieutenants commanded Directors' ships in 1653. From this list, we can see that Cornelis Cornelisz Jol was a different man from Cornelis Hoola, despite what Dr. Ballhausen said. At this date, Cornelis Hoola commanded the Leiden. I might be tempted to further change the readings of some of the handwriting, but I don't have time at present:
No. Ship Captain Lieutenant 1 d'Alexander Jan Maijkers Foitus Erlirst 2 Blauwen Arent Dirck Pater Hendrick Hendricksz Hen 3 St. Salvador Matthijs Cornelisz Jan Jansz Lons 4 de Faem Jacob Swart Afweris Kriekie 10 St. Matheus Cornelis Naeuoogh Jan Arensen 20 Gideon van Sardam HectorBardesius Ulrich Claesz de Jager 13 Prins Maurits Nicolaes de Witt Marten Juriaensen 6 Arche Troijane Abrahamvan Campen Court Bruijnse 9 Croon Imperiaal Cornelis Jansz Poort Gerrit Drommont 7 St. Francisco Stoffel Juriaensz Jacob Moesman 8 de Valck Cornelis Jansz Brouwer Bartolomeus Riesbeeck 11 de Roosenboom Gerrit Schuyt Barent Philipsen 5 Princes Roijael Marten de Graeff Abraham deKoninck de Neptunis Gerrit van Lummen Jan Danielsz van Luijck Davit en Goliad Claes van Jaersvelt Godefred van Beringer Elias Jacob Sievors Spansennis Frans Francen Nassouw Lambert Pietersz Dirck Jansz Soomer Engel Gabriel Bastiaen Bardoel Cornelis Cornelisz Joll 't Witte Lam Cornelis van Houten Jan Jansz van de Ridderstraet Swarte Leeuw Hendrick de Raedt Robbert Pietersz St. Maria Sipke Fockes Pieter Jansen de Groote Liefde Bruijn van Seelst Elaes Cornelisz de Groote Gulden Fortuijn Fredrick de Coninck Dirck Hendricksz Vogelsang de Engel Michiel Fredrick Boogaert Adriaen Pietersz
Saturday, October 28, 2006
The ships in the Fishery Protection Squadron in 1652 are still something of a mystery
The Hollandsche Mercurius and The First Dutch War, Vol.I, both have the list of ships in the Fishery Protection Squadron that was attacked and eliminated on 22 July 1652. I still am not totally convinced that the list published is accurate. There is reason to believe that the squadron consisted of 15 or 16 ships. There are still many ships in the squadron which have not been found in archival documents. Enough have been found to indicate that the list may, in fact, be accurate, as it is given. We already know that the Marcus Curtius was also taken on 22 July, but is not in those other lists. There are several ships that we have complete information about, including the Marcus Curtius, the Juffrouw Catharina, and the Kalmar Sleutel. The last is from Ron van Maanen's lists, while the others are in the list of Amsterdam ships hired, from the Wrangell Collection.
Sources:
- Pieter Casteleyn, Hollandsche Mercurius, 1652
- Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.I, 1898
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Oorlogsschepen" van de admiraliteit van de Maze in de zeventiende en achttiende eeuw, undated
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
- list of Admiralty of Amsterdam hired ships from 1652 from the Wrangell Collection, 1652
Friday, October 27, 2006
Two Rotterdam ships named Gelderland
I have had a reader ask me about the ship Gelderland that was built to replace the ship lost in 1629. I had not realized that the larger ship was probably the ship built as the replacement, as early as 1632. These are the details from Ron van Maanen's document "Mazenieuii", about the ships built for Rotterdam:
Gelderland, built in 1628 and lost in 1629 26 guns crew 85 men 160-180 lasts Guns: 2-18pdr, 2-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 4-6pdr, 2-4pdr, and 2-steenstukken with four chambers (there were two chambers per gun, as these were old-style breechloaders) Gelderland, built somewhere between 1632 and 1634 last mentioned in 1659 Dimensions in Maas feet: 118ft x 28ft x 12-1/2ft Est. dimensions in Amsterdam feet: 128-1/2ft x 30-1/2ft x 13-1/2ft 40 Guns on 16 November 1652: 18-18pdr, 12-12pdr, 8-6pdr, and 2-4pdr Crew: varied from 85 to 140 sailorsSources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Oorlogsschepen" van de admiraliteit van de Maze in de zeventiende en achttiende eeuw, undated (MAZENIEUII)
Thursday, October 26, 2006
Dutch ships in service on 9 June 1652
I was surprised to learn from Carl Stapel, that on 9 June 1652, the Dutch had 186 ships in service. This is a considerably larger number than I had thought, which was about 112 ships. 46 these ships were away from home waters, with as many as 15 ships in the Mediterranean Sea under the command of Joris van Cats. He flew his flag on the new Jaarsveld (44 guns). Another 16 ships were in the fishery protection squadron in the North Sea. 10 ships were still in Brazil, but actually on the return voyage to the Netherlands. 5 more were off the coast of Spain near Cape St. Vincent. Of the 100 ships to be hired by the Admiralties, there were only 38 in service. All 50 of the Directors' ships were in service by this date. Source:
- Carl Stapel, personal communication "Memorie schepen 9 Juni 1652", 2006
Wednesday, October 25, 2006
Google Book Search
Google Book Search now has even more good resources available online. There are the British State Papers Domestic for the Commonwealth for 1652 to 1653. You can actually download the PDF file for this book, which is amazing. Frank Fox had highly recommended this book to me. The first three volumes of The First Dutch War are searchable, online. I wish that the rest were available, but they are held up by the copyright issue. I have previously mentioned that Granville Penn's book about William Penn is available, and that is a good primary source. Now, Corbett's booklet about the Earl of Darmouth's van de Velde drawings from the Navy Records Society can be read online.
Tuesday, October 24, 2006
Another try at Witte de With's squadron in August 1652
This list of Witte de With's squadron in August 1652 is based on the latest information:
Adm Ship Guns Crew Commander R Prinses Louise 36 150 Vice-Admiraal Witte de With R Beer 24 91 kapitein Jan de Haes R Hollandia 24 97 kapitein Hendrick Ernestus de Bartrij (or Bertrij) A Vrijheid 44 150 commandeur Aucke Balck A Westfriesland 28 100 kapitein Jan Jansz Boermans A Hollandia 30 110 kapitein Albert Claesz de Graeff A Gouden Leeuw 24 80 kapitein Gilles Matthijsz Campen A Edam 28 100 kapitein Barent Cramer Z Sandenburgh 24 85 Pieter Gorcum N Schel 24 80 Teunis VechterszoonSources:
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Lijst van Nederlandse schepen in maart 1653", 2006
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "vlootlijst van schepen van de Maze in september 1652", 2006
Monday, October 23, 2006
The Purmerland
The Hoorn Directors hired the ship Purmerland in 1653. The Purmerland took part in Witte de With's voyage to Norway to bring back merchant ships that had been trapped there by the threat of English cruisers and privateers. Andries Sybrantszoon commanded the ship. Ron van Maanen lists the dimensions of the Purmerland as 127ft x 29ft. He says that she carried between 30 and 34 guns and had a crew of 95 to 150 men. The one place that Ron van Maanen gives guns and crew don't make sense to me, as he wrote that Andries Sybrantsz's ship carried 18 guns and had a crew of 75 men.
Sources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
The Amsterdam ship Duivenvoorde
The Amsterdam ship Duivenvoorde was built in 1655. The ship was burnt at the Four Days' Battle in 1666. Ron van Maanen has details about the ship:
The ship Duivenvoorde Length from stem to sternpost: 130ft Beam: 32ft Hold: unknown 48 guns on 31 March 1665: 4-18pdr, 18-12pdr, 20-8pdr, and 6-3pdr
Sunday, October 22, 2006
Witte de With had referred to Pieter Gorcum's ship as a jacht
In September 1652, in The First Dutch War, Vol.II, Witte de With referred to Pieter Gorcum's ship as a jacht. Carl Stapel and Ron van Maanen both give the ship, the Sandenburgh, a length of 100ft. This is the same length as the Japonder van Dordrecht (or Dordrecht) and the Friesland jacht Waterhond. Both were also 100ft long and were three-masted jachts. The Japonder carried up to 17 guns and the Waterhond carried 16 guns. The Sandenburgh was more heavily armed, with 24 guns and had a crew of 90 men in September 1652. Sources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
- Carl Stapel, personal communication "Dates of ships of Zeeland", 2006
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Friday, October 20, 2006
The Middelburg and Vlissingen Directors' ships all had substantial 8pdr batteries
Amsterdam Directors' ships all had a good 12pdr battery. For 28-gun ships, the armament was often 10-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 6-6pdr, and 2-3pdr guns. The Middelburg and Vlissingen Directors' ships all had a modest 12pdr battery, except for the Witte Lam, which was often Michiel De Ruyter's flagship from later in 1652. The others had either 2 or 4 12pdr guns, although they would usually have either a few 18pdr or 24pdr guns, as well. The rest had either 10, 14, or 18-8pdr guns. They also had a few 6pdrs, and often had 2 or 4-4pdr guns.
Sources:
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Directieschepen van Zeeland in 1652", 2006
Thursday, October 19, 2006
One ship that I have not seen mentioned: Sint Johannes, an Amsterdam Directors' ship from 1653
A ship, the Sint Johannes, was listed on 8 February 1653, and the details were given, but I have not recognized that this ship is mentioned in any source that I have seen (certainly not in Ron van Maanen's list). This must be an Amsterdam Directors' ship, and I have the details:
The ship Sint Johannes Length from stem to sternpost: 125ft Beam inside the planking: 29ft Hold: 12-1/2ft Height between decks: 7ft 28 guns: 2-18pdr, 8-12pdr, 10-8pdr, 6-6pdr, and 2-3pdrSources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Directors' Ship Information 1652-1653", 2004
Wednesday, October 18, 2006
The ship Nieuwkasteel
One of the ships for which we knew the name, captain, and nothing else, was the ship Nieuwkasteel, commanded by Claes Aldertszoon. The Nieuwkasteel was in service in 1652, and then disappears from the published literature. The ship does not seem to have served with the fleet, as there is no mention of the captain's name in the lists that I have for 1652. Carl found that the ship was listed as the Nieuw Casteel, with 19 guns and a crew of 65 men. The captain was Claes Alderts. The ship was paid off, sometime in 1652. The guns and crew indicated to Carl that this was probably a jacht, which would make sense.
Sources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Captains", 2004
- Carl Stapel, personal communication, "lijst alle capiteins 1652 in het Noorderkwartier", 2006
Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Some Dutch ships from 1641-1642
Ron van Maanen has the details of some Dutch ships from 1641 to 1642. They are the sort of hired ship that was used to fight the Dunkirkers in this period:
Adm Ship Guns Crew Length Beam Hold Height between decks N Drie Helden Davids 36 91-100 140ft 29ft 12ft 4-1/2ft A Engel Gabriel 28 80 142ft 26-1/2ft 13ft 7ft N Gouden Leeuw 24 74-90 112ft 26ft 12-1/2ft 6-1/2ft N Graaf Maurits 20-22 55-60 120ft 26ft 11-1/2ft 5-3/4ft N Hoop 28 79-80 140ft 26ft 12ft A Neptunus 20 59-60 105ft 24ft 10-1/2ft 6-1/2ft A Pelikaan 30-32 94-100 136ft 29-1/2ft 14ft 6ft-7in A Prins 36-38 116-120 142ft 29-1/2ft 13-1/2ft A Prins van Portugaal 24-26 70 124ft 26ft 11-1/2ft 6ft M Roode Leeuw 36-37 118-120 134ft 34ft 14ft 5 or 7ft A Sint Andries 36 106-120 136ft 29-1/2ft 6-3/4ft A Sint Jacob 26 87-90 123-1/2ft 28-1/2ft 6-1/4ft N Sint Maarten 30 100 147ft 28ft 14ft M Tijger 20 54-60 120ft 26ft 11-1/2ft 6ft M Witte Engel 30 80-94 130ft 26ft 12-1/2ft 6-1/2ft A Zwaan 30-32 89-100 134ft 28-1/2ft 13-1/4ft 6-1/2ftSources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
Monday, October 16, 2006
The Zeeuwsche Jager in May 1653
Captain Lourensz Crijnsz commanded the Zeeuwsche Jager in May 1653. I had, at one point, that that the Zeeuwsche Jager had been converted to a fireship for the Battle of the Gabbard, but that seems not to have been the case. A member of the Crijnssen family (or Crijnszoon) commanded the jacht in mid-1653. In May, the Zeeuwsche Jager carried 14 guns and had a crew of 54 men. Carl Stapel found that the Zeeuwsche Jager's largest guns were 6pdrs. Sources:
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Lijst van Nederlandse schepen in maart 1653", 2006
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Sunday, October 15, 2006
Ron van Maanen lists a ship he calls "Leeuwin"
I was looking over my comprehensive list and comparing it with Ron van Maanen's "Zeeland" list (I have no idea about the origin of the file name). Ron lists a ship he calls "Leeuwin", which was hired by the Middelburg Directors. I had initially thought that this referred to the ship Gouden Leeuw, commanded by Jacob Adriaansz Penssen, but now I think that this was the ship commanded by Johannes van Regermorter at the Three Days' Battle. Apparently, this is the ship that was brought home to Zeeland after the battle by Claes Janszoon. The first time that I had associated Leeuwinne (the archaic spelling) with Johannes van Regermorter was when I was studying Witte de With's journal for May 1653. The Leeuwinne is one of the few ship names listed. Ron van Maanen has dimensions that are apparently for this ship: 120ft length, 27-1/2ft beam, and a height between decks (Ron would argue against this characterization of the number, but it still seems right) of 6-1/4ft. Sources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Zeeland", undated
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Saturday, October 14, 2006
Amsterdam Directors' ships in Witte de With's fleet in September 1653
The list of ships and captains with Witte de With's fleet in September 1653 is quite informative. One of the groups of ships is that of the Amsterdam Directors:
Ship Guns Crew Captain Moorinne 30 110 Cornelis Cornelisz Jol Swarte Leeuw 30 123 Hendrick de Raedt (Aug 1653) Hercules 27 104 Sijmon Veeneman Engel Michiel 28 99 Dirck Bogart Sint Pieter 28 110 Gerrit Schuyt (Aug 1653) Moor 36 140 Adriaan Cornelisz van Ackersloot Coninck Davit 28 104 Dirck Hendricksz Vogelsanck (Vogelsang) Walvis 32 118 luitenant-commandeur de Beringe (Aug 1653) Sampson 28 100 Cornelis Cornelisz de Groot Hollandsche Thuijn 36 140 Herman Walman (Aug 1653) Ceurvorst van Ceulen 32 124 Sijmon Dootjes Faam 28 128 Jacob Swart Gideon 34 95 Dirck Jansz Somer (May 1653)Sources:
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
An interesting reference in Witte de With's journal for May 1653
On page 113 of Witte de With's journal for May 1653, there is an interesting reference to a ship that I have not heard of before. Under the heading of Directors' ships of Amsterdam, there are two entries. The second is obvious enough, Capn Rietbeeck, which refers to Bartholomeus van Rietbeeck, who commanded the ship Rooseboom at this date. The first entry is the interesting one. It says, in Dutch, as best as I can tell:
Capn. Jacob Swart t'schip de MatenivesThe "n" could be a "u", but that does not make any sense (although I can't say that what I wrote does, either). I had briefly thought that the "v" was part of an "r", until looked at the entries nearby, such as Lt-commandeur Marevelt. Sources:
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Friday, October 13, 2006
The Admiralty of Zeeland employed an odd set of gun calibers
From what I have seen from Ron van Maanen's lists, and from what Carl Stapel recently saw, I can tell that the Admiralty of Zeeland had ships equipped with some very different gun calibers, as well as many of the usual types:
24pdr 20pdr carried by Amsterdam 18pdr 16pdr carried by West Cappel 15pdr carried by Hollandia 12pdr 10pdr carried by Neptunis, Amsterdam, one of the Zeelandias 9pdr 8pdr 7pdr carried by Goes, Sandenburgh, Eendracht (24 guns) 6pdr 5pdr carried by Zeeuwsche Jager, Wapen van Zeeland 4pdr 3pdrSources:
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Lijst van Nederlandse schepen in maart 1653", 2006
Thursday, October 12, 2006
Vice-Admiral De With's squadron on 30 April 1653
Page 70 of the letters of Witte de With gives a listing of his squadron, as of 30 April 1653. This is somewhat different from that which raided Scarborough earlier in April. This is the list, suitably annotated:
Adm Ship Guns Crew Commander A Leeuwarden 34 158 Witte de With Govert Reael, flag captain Vl-Dir Gekroonde Liede 36 142 commandeur De Ruyter Markus Hartman, flag captain R Utrecht 22 98 commandeur Leendert Haexwant Z Neptunus 28 114 Adriaan Jansz den Gloeyenden Oven A Omlandia 30 109 Maarten Schaeff A Graaf Willem 40 155 Capt. Verburgh R Overijssel 24 98 Dirck Vijgh N Prins Maurits 32 97 Capt. Taenman Z Amsterdam 30 120 Adriaan Kempen F Postpaert 30 106 Isaak Kodde Z Hollandia 38 127 Adriaan Bankert Mi-Dir Gouden Leeuw 30 110 Jacob Adriaansz Penssen Ha-Dir Sint Vincent 28 110 Ariaan Heeres Kleijntje A-VOC Gerechtigheid 34 105 Evert Pietersz Swart? En-Dir Vergulde Zon 28 115 Jacob DuijmSources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2006
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Lijst van schepen van 20 juni 1653", 2006
- Witte de With, letters from 1653 to 1658, Archive E8811 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Wednesday, October 11, 2006
The entry in Witte de With's journal for 31 May 1653
In an entry in Witte de With's journal for 31 May 1653, there is some interesting information, which I have annotated from Carl Stapel's paper:
The vice-admiraal Johan Evertsen was in the ship of "Capt. Claes": Adm Ship Guns Crew Captain Z Milde Maarten 26 110 Claes Jansz Sanger (with Johan Evertsen) Mi-Dir Leeuwinne 30 120 perhaps the luitenant of the late Johannes van RegermorterSources:
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Lijst van schepen van 20 Juni 1653", 2006
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Tuesday, October 10, 2006
Ron van Maanen's dimensions for the Wapen van Nassouw seem very odd
We now know that the ship provided by the Rotterdam Chamber of the VOC was named Wapen van Nassouw (Nassau). The ship was commanded by Jan Arensz van der Werff, and carried 32 guns and had a crew of 124 men in May 1653. The dimensions given by Ron van Maanen are pretty extreme: 130ft x 43ft x 12ft. The beam is very out of line with typical practice. A more reasonable beam would be 33ft, not 43ft. The VOC ships that served with the fleet in 1653 were generally cruisers. For example, Pieter de Bitter's ship Mercurius had dimensions of 123ft x 30ft x 12ft. The large East Indiamen built by the Middelburg Chamber of the VOC were typically 170ft x 38ft x 18ft. For a much shorter ship to have a beam of 43ft is without precedent among the ships that served with the fleet. By the way, Ron has the guns carried by the Wapen van Nassouw: 12-12pdr, 10-8pdr, 8-6pdr, and 2-3pdr.
Sources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2006
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Oorlogsschepen" van de admiraliteit van de Maze in de zeventiende en achttiende eeuw, undated
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Monday, October 09, 2006
Johan Evertsz de Liefde's ship Jonas in 1652 and 1653
Ron van Maanen's document about Rotterdam ships, "Oorlogsschepen" van de admiraliteit van de Maze in de zeventiende en achttiende eeuw (undated) gives the armament of Johan Evertsz de Liefde's ship Jonas, a ship hired by the Rotterdam Directors in 1652. This is new information to me, although I have only seen some of the armaments for Rotterdam ships in 1652 for a few days. Ron says that on 1 October 1652, the Jonas carried: 14-12pdr, 4-8pdr, 10-6pdr, 6-4pdr, and 2-3pdr guns.
Sunday, October 08, 2006
Claes Jansz Sanger's ship in 1652 to early 1653
I have new information from Carl Stapel, from archival sources, that has caused me to rethink what I had thought I knew about Claes Jansz Sanger's ship. There is a list of De Ruyter's fleet, misplaced in Vol.VI of The First Dutch War, that calls Claes Jansz Sanger's ship the Galjas van Middelburg. Carl found that in a list from March 1653, that Claes Jansz Sanger commanded the ship Middelburg (28 guns). Claes Jansz Sanger was said to have commanded the ship West Cappelle when it was sunk at the Battle of Scheveningen, and I had assumed that he had commanded the same ship for the entire war (as some captains did). Instead, I would now say that he commanded the Middelburg from earlier in 1652 up to at least March 1653, including the Three Days Battle (Portland). Sources:
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol. VI, 1930
- Johan E. Elias, Schetsen uit de geschiedenis van ons zeewezen, Vol.V, 1928
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Lijst van Nederlandse schepen in maart 1653", 2006
VOC Ships with the Dutch fleet in May 1653
There seem to have been six VOC ships with the Dutch fleet in May 1653:
Adm Ship Guns Crew Captain R-VOC Wapen van Nassouw 32 124 Jan Arensz van der Werff A-VOC Huis van Nassau 34 112 Jan Pietersz van Srijp A-VOC Gerechtigheid 34 105 Evert Pietersz Swart A-VOC Mercurius 36 110 Pieter de Bitter Ho-VOC Sint Willeboort 27 120 Erich Jacobszoon Mi-VOC Swarte Bul 32 104 Willem FolckertszoonI you rely upon the current published sources, you would not know this sort of information. Right now, the best information is in the various archives, including the Riksarkivet in Stockholm and the Nationaal Archief in The Hague. Sources:
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Lijst van schepen van 31 mei 1653", 2006
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Saturday, October 07, 2006
The armament of the three-masted jacht Brak
A minor point, but one that I had not known, is that the armament for the Amsterdam three-masted jacht Brak (and probably the Windhond, as well) was 4-8pdr, 12-4pdr, and 2-3pdr. I still do not understand the wide use of the 2-3pdr guns, but they were usually found on all the Amsterdam Directors' ships and others, as well. They were less like to appear on older States' ships. The Brak and Windhond were very similar ships. They both were 115ft long and had beams of only 23ft. Their hold measurements differed slightly, although Ron van Maanen credits them both with 10-1/2ft holds.
Sources:
- Carl Stapel, unpublished manuscript "Lijst van Nederlandse schepen in maart 1653", 2006
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
Friday, October 06, 2006
Corstiaen Corstiaenszoon
Lists in 1652 call the captain of the ship we now know was named the Prins, "Corstiaen Corstiaensz". New information found by Carl Stapel seems to indicate that he might have had a last name of "de Munnicq". I have found "Corstiaen" and "Christiaen" frequently being used interchangeably in 17th Century Dutch. Carl found a reference to "Christiaen de Munnicq" as captain of the ship Prins, with 38 guns. The ship is the Rotterdam Directors' ship, so I would surmise that the captain's full name was "Corstiaen Corstiaensz de Munnicq" (or substitute "Christiaen" for "Corstiaen"). (CORRECTED)
Thursday, October 05, 2006
The two Noorderkwartier Directors' ships with the fleet in September 1653
There were two Noorderkwartier Directors' ships with Witte de With's fleet in September 1652. Witte de With's journal lists them:
Adm Ship guns crew Captain Me-Dir Koning Radbout 28 98 Jan Rootjes Ho-Dir Sampson 30 95 Jacob Pietersz HouckI suspect that the Sampson listed in Ron van Maanen's list with dimensions of 132ft x 27ft x 13.5ft, with a height between decks of 6-1/4ft is this ship. He seems to have confused the Sampson (24 guns) commanded by Willem Ham in 1652 with Jacob Pietersz Houck's ship. Ron says that there was a ship mentioned in 1653 with these dimensions, so it must be Capt. Houck's ship. Sources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Wednesday, October 04, 2006
The Noorderkwartier Directors' ship Herderinne
Dirck Gerritsz Pomp commanded the Noorderkwarter Directors' ship Herderinne (the more usual spelling would be Harderin), at least from May to November 1653. This ship seems to have escaped the notice of Ron van Maanen. We are forced to rely upon Witte de With's journals. The ship is also mentioned a large hand-written sheet from May or June 1653. These are some notes about the ship:
Ship Guns Crew Captain May 1653 Herderinne 31 125 Dirck Gerritsz PompThe ship is named on page 202 of E8812, circa October 1653 in Witte de With's journal. There are very few references to this ship that I have seen.
Tuesday, October 03, 2006
The Noorderkwartier ship Gouden Leeuw in 1641 to 1642
Ron van Maanen says that the Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier had hired a ship named Gouden Leeuw in 1641. The ship was apparently in service until 1642. The unique thing is that the dimensions for the Gouden Leeuw (also known as the Witte Arend) are known. These are the details from Ron, which are similar to those for Gillis Thyssen Campen's ship, Gouden Leeuw, in 1652:
The ship Gouden Leeuw Length from stem to sternpost: 112ft Beam: 26ft Hold: 12-1/2ft Height between decks: 6-1/2ft 24 guns Crew: 74 to 80 menSources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Monday, October 02, 2006
The ship Groote Alexander from 1639
Ron van Maanen has as many details for the ship Groote Alexander, which was hired in 1639, as he has for ships that served in the First Anglo-Dutch War. He speculates that this ship might have been the Spanish El Gran Alejandro taken in 1639 (at the Battle of the Downs?). Ron says that in 1639, the ship was five years old. These are the details:
The ship Groote Alexander Length from stem to sternpost: 135ft Beam: 29ft Hold: 11ft Height between decks: 5ft 34 guns: 5-18pdr, 3-12pdr, 10-8pdr, 10-6pdr, 6-4pdrSources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Sunday, October 01, 2006
List with ship names from May 1653
Page 128 from Witte de With's journals (E8812) has a list of ships with names, captains, most of the guns, and most of the crews listed. This is a the list, omitting some additional fields:
Ship Captain Guns Crew Adm (not in list) Stad Monnikendam SbN Pieter Florisz 36 178 N Hooren (Hoorn) Capt. Claes Aldertsz 30 95 N Sampson Lt-Commandeur Jacob Albertsz Pool 30 112 A-Dir Amsterdam Capt. Pouwels Egbertsz Sonck 30 120 A Moorjens (Moorin) Capt. Cornelis Cornelisz Jol 28 107 A-Dir Elias Capt. Frans Fransz Sluijter 34 107 A-Dir Gideon Capt. Dirck Jansz Soomer (Somer) 34 95 A-Dir Burgh Capt. Hendrick Glas 34 119 A-Dir Peereboom Capt. Peereboom 24 86 N Gulde Pelicaen Capt. Bartimulus Soudaen 30 120 A-Dir Profeet Samuel Capt. Reynst Cornelisz Sevenhuijsen 30 N Beer Capt. Jan Olij 32 104 Mo-Dir (Kameel) Capt. Bulter (42) Gr-Dir (Jonas) Capt. Collerij 26 110 A Walvis Capt. Abraham Verlet (Verleth) 30 104 A-Dir
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