- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
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Wednesday, January 31, 2007
Three Amsterdam ships named Hollandia, from 1683 to 1734
Tuesday, January 30, 2007
From the papers of Dr. Simon Hart
Monday, January 29, 2007
The fluit Judith from 1658
The fluit Judith Dimensions: 128ft x 26-1/2ft x 12-1/2ft x 6ft 20 guns: 8-6pdr, 8-4pdr, and 4-2pdrThe document number is very light, but appears to be number 1187 from the PDF file 883-472, from Dr. Simon Hart's papers from the Gemeentearchief Amsterdam (the Municipal Archives of Amsterdam). Sadly, the PDF files are very large--too large for email.
Sunday, January 28, 2007
If there was just one Sint Matheeus, that simplifies things while raising new questions
English Dimensions: Length on the keel: 108ft Beam outside the planking: 32ft Depth of hold: 15ft Estimated Dutch Dimensions: Length from stem to sternpost: 143.64ft Beam inside of the planking: 36.16ft Hold: 16.96ftI am not sure why the hold dimensions is far off, but my system indicates that the larger dimensions seem more plausible for the ship that was captured by the English.
Saturday, January 27, 2007
Carl Stapel's list for May to June 1653 has Joost Bulter's ship
Friday, January 26, 2007
Joost Bulter's ship at the Battle of the Gabbard in June 1653
Thursday, January 25, 2007
Two ships name Zeeridder
Ron van Maanen has information about two Zeeland ships named Zeeridder. The first was the frigate built in 1640 at Veere by Jan Keijser. This Zeeridder, also called Meerminne, was last mentioned in 1655. This ship had dimensions of 116ft x 27ft x 11ft, carried 26 guns, and had a crew of about 70 men. Her first captain in 1640 was named Bastiaen Thijssen. The second ship was built in 1653 and had dimensions of 116ft x 28ft x 11-1/2ft, with a height between decks of 6-1/2ft. The second ship carrried between 28 and 36 guns, at diferent dates and had a crew that varied between 75 and 186 men. The small ship must have been very crowded with 186 men! The second Zeeridder was last mentioned in 1667. Sources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "ZEELAND", undated
Wednesday, January 24, 2007
The Rotterdam ship Eendracht, built in 1666
19 May 1666: 14-24pdr, 26-18pdr, 12-12pdr, 16-6pdr, and 8-4pdr guns 24 Feb 1672: 14-24pdr, 12-18pdr, 24-12pdr, 6-6pdr, and 14-4pdr gunsSources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
- Wikipedia page on the Battle of Agosta (English)
Tuesday, January 23, 2007
I am still curious about a listing from Ron van Maanen for a jacht Brak
The jacht Brak, (1 April 1653) kapitein Dirck Pieterssen Berthiens Dimensions: 115ft x 25ft x 9ft, with a height between decks of 6ft 18 guns: 5 April 1653: 4-8pdr, 12-4pdr, and 2-3pdr guns Crew: 70-90 menSources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Monday, January 22, 2007
What ships went over to the Royalists in 1648?
- Swallow, 36 guns 3rd Rate
- Constant Reformation, 46 guns 2nd Rate
- Convertine, 42 guns 2nd Rate
- Antelope, 36 guns 3rd Rate
- Satisfaction, 26 guns 5th Rate
- Constant Warwick, 26 guns 4th Rate
- Blackmoor Lady, 18 guns 5th rate
- Hind, 13 guns 6th Rate
- Crescent, 14 guns 6th Rate
- Roebuck, 10 guns 6th Rate and
- Pelican, 10 guns 6th Rate
- R. C. Anderson, Lists of Men-of-War 1650-1700: Part I English Ships 1649-1702, 1966
- William Laird Clowes, The Royal Navy: A History from the Earliest Times to the Present, Vol.II, 1898
- J. R. Powell, The Navy in the English Civil War, 1962
An early 1700's Dutch ship Huis te Neck
The ship Huis te Neck Length: 140ft Beam: 38ft or perhaps 40ft in many sources Hold: 15-1/2ft or perhaps 16ft in many sources 50 to 54 guns Crew: 280 men
Sources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Sunday, January 21, 2007
So where did the 1644 date come from for the supposed 120ft long Achilles?
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
- A. Vreugdenhil, Ships of the United Netherlands 1648-1702, 1938
Saturday, January 20, 2007
Dutch ships built in 1693 seem to have been lightly armed
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
Friday, January 19, 2007
Dutch warships in the First Anglo-Dutch Wars with 8-18pdr guns
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
The Zevenwolden in 1653
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
The Zevenwolden in 1653
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Tuesday, January 16, 2007
English Captain: Anthony Joyne
- R. C. Anderson, "English Fleet-Lists in the First Dutch War," The Mariner's Mirror, Vol.XXIV No.4, October 1938
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.V, 1912
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol. VI, 1930
Monday, January 15, 2007
English Captain: Francis Barham
- R. C. Anderson, "English Fleet-Lists in the First Dutch War," The Mariner's Mirror, Vol.XXIV No.4, October 1938
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
The Svenska Flottans Historia
Brass guns Iron guns Ship 30pr 24pr 18pr 14pr 12pr 10pr 8pr 6pr 3pr 18pr 14pr 8pr 6pr 3pr Kronan 24 4 26 14 6 Viktoria 2 26 24 16 4 Mars 6 12 8 4 4 2 2 4 Apollo 4 8 2 6 2 6 4
Sunday, January 14, 2007
Some speculation about hte Stad Medemblick
Medemblick 28 guns: 10-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 6-4pdr, and 2-3pdr Casteel van Medemblick 28 guns: 10-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 2-6pdr, 6-4pdr, and 2-3pdr Hoorn 32 guns: 6-12pdr, 20-8pdr, 2-6pdr, and 2-4pdr Enkhuizen 28 guns: 4-12pdr, 14-8pdr, 6-6pdr, and 4-4pdr Wapen van Monnikendam 28 guns: 4-12pdr, 14-8pdr, 6-6pdr, and 4-4pdrThere were apparently two different arming schemes for Noorderkwartier ships. One was more like the Amsterdam Directors' scheme, with 10-12pdr and 8-8pdr guns, with some smaller. The other schweme had either 4 or 6 12pdr with many more 8pdr guns. 14-8pdr was apparently a typical number. Sources:
- Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654, 1654
Saturday, January 13, 2007
The Amsterdam ship Prinses Aemilia,built in 1699
The ship Prinses Aemilia Length from stem to sternpost: 148ft Beam: 39-3/4ft Hold: 15-3/4ft 60 guns: 24-18pdr, 24-12pdr, 12-6pdr Crew: 305 to 325 menSources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
Friday, January 12, 2007
The Rotterdam fishery protection ship Sint Paul
St. Paul Dimensions: English: Length on the keel=84ft, Beam=25-1/2ft, Depth=9ft-8in Estimated Dutch in Amsterdam feet: Length=112ft Beam=28ft-9in Hold: 11ft Estimated Dutch in Maas feet: 102ft-8in x 26-1/2ft x 10ft Candidates in Maas feet: a fishery ship: 106ft x 25ft x 9ft-9in with 30-34 guns a fishery ship: 100ft x 24ft x 9ft-9in with 28 guns a fishery ship: 103ft-8in x 22-1/2ft x 10ft-10in with 28 guns a fishery ship: 92ft x 22ft x 10ft-7inI would think that the ship could be the 106ft-long ship, and that my estimation method is underestimating the rake of the ship (the ratio between the waterline length and the keel length). This length would give a factor of 1.3766, which is not excessive. I have written about this issue, previously. The calculations are still valid.
Thursday, January 11, 2007
The Rotterdam ship Dordrecht, built in 1655
The ship Dordrecht, built at Rotterdam in 1655 Dimensions: Maas feet: 117ft x 29ft-3in x 12-1/2ft Amsterdam feet: 127ft-7in x 32ft-5in x 13ft-3in, height between decks 7ft-4in 42 guns (16 March 1665): 10-18pdr, 18-12pdr, 10-8pdr, 4-6pdr Crew: 160 to 208 men, at different datesSources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Wednesday, January 10, 2007
Laurens Degelcamp
The ship Groeninger Nicolaes, kapitein Laurens Hermansz Degelcamp Length from stem to sternpost: 106ft Beam: 25-1/2ft Hold: 11ft Height between decks: 5-3/4ft 24 guns: 4-8pdr, 8-6pdr, 10-4pdr, 2-2pdrSources:
- lijst van schepen in dienst van de Staet der Vereenigde Nederlanden, 28 November 1652
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Tuesday, January 09, 2007
The Dutch fleet organization on 9 June 1652
Ships under the flag of Lt-Admiraal Tromp Admiralties: Rotterdam 12 Amsterdam 20 Zeeland 13 Noorderkwartier 10 Friesland 6 Directors: Rotterdam 4 Amsterdam 8 Zeeland 6 Noorderkwartier 6 Friesland 2 Stad en Landen 1 Total 88 ships In the Mediterranean Sea: Rotterdam 1 Amsterdam 21 Zeeland 3 Noorderkwartier 4 Friesland 0 Total 28 ships In the Sound Amsterdam 2 Directors of Amsterdam 2 Total 4 ships
Monday, January 08, 2007
The Reinier Nooms painting of the Aemilia at the Battle of the Downs
Sunday, January 07, 2007
The list of Noorderkwartier ship commanders on 6 December 1652
Admiralty ships of the Noorderkwartier Commander Ship Guns Schout-bij-Nacht Pieter Florissen Monnikendam 36 guns kapitein Cornelis Pietersz Taenman Prins Maurits 28 guns kapitein Arent Dirckszoon Wapen van Monnikendam 24 guns Commander Ship Guns kapitein Thijs Thijmensz Peereboom Peereboom 24 guns commandeur Johannes Bourgoigne Tobias 30 guns kapitein Jan Heck Eenhoorn 28 guns kapitein Volckert Schram kapitein Teunis Vechterszoon Schel 24 guns kapitein Gabriel Theuniszoon Kasteel van Medemblick 26 guns kapitein Harman MunnekesOf the two unknown ships, one could be Pieter Aldertszoon's ship Hoorn and the other could be Pieter Schellinger's ship Stad Medemblick.
Saturday, January 06, 2007
The counter argument about the Kalmar Sleutel
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Oorlogsschepen" van de admiraliteit van de Maze in de zeventiende en achttiende eeuw, undated
- David de Wildt, Notitie van de schepen die tegen wordich in lant sijn, 22 February 1652
David de Wildt's entry for the Calmer Sleutel
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Oorlogsschepen" van de admiraliteit van de Maze in de zeventiende en achttiende eeuw, undated
- David de Wildt, Notitie van de schepen die tegen wordich in lant sijn, 22 February 1652
Friday, January 05, 2007
The Rotterdam ships that were part of the 36 ships of 1651
Adm Ship Guns Commander R Brederode 54 luitenant-admiraal Tromp R Gelderlant 40 kapitein Michiel Fransz van den Berg R Princesse Louise 36 vice-admiraal Witte de With R Hollandt 30 kapitein Hendrick de Munnick R Prinses Roijalle 36 kapitein Joost van Coulster R Wapen van Rotterdam 26 kapitein Jacob van BoshuijsenThe Prinses Roijalle is also called, more properly, the Prinses Roijael Marie. Sources:
- Lijst van schepen in dienst van de Staedt der Veernichde Nederlanden, 28 November 1652
Thursday, January 04, 2007
Carl Stapel says that schipper Coolbrant's fluit was named Blompot
Wednesday, January 03, 2007
Schipper Coolbrant's ammunition fluit
- list of warships of the Admiralty of Rotterdam, dated 7 March 1652
Tuesday, January 02, 2007
From the 11 May 1652 Zeeland list: the new captains
Adm Ship Guns Captain Z Hollandia 36 Philips Joosten Z Neptunis 25 Jan Pauwelsen Z Zeeridder 27 Gillis Janssen Z Zeelandia 32 Andries Pietersz den Boer Z Vlissingen 32 Cornelis Mangelaer Z Zeelandia 32 Jan Naelhout Z Salamander 26 Jan Cristoffelsz DuijmSources:
- list dated 11 May 1652
- list dated 28 November 1652