The ship [Prinses Roijael Maria] was taken in June 1652 in an English harbor. Its captain was Joost van Colster son of captain Willem Joosten van Colster. Joost van Colster commanded the Gelderland in the relief squadron to Brazil with Witte de With.
According to the notaries, Joost van Colster left the navy in July 1652 and became a merchant...!
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Wednesday, May 31, 2006
More about the Prinses Roijael Maria from Carl Stapel
Carl Stapel passed on the following additional information about the Prinses Roijael Maria (which I have slightly edited):
The Prinses Roijael Maria
By the early 1640's, the Aemilia was out of service, due in part to hard service in battle in 1639 and damage from a storm while carrying Queen Henrietta Marie from England to the Netherlands in February 1643. Many people wanted to repair the Aemilia, due in part to her significant role in greatly damaging the Spanish Armada of 1639. Jan Salomonszoon, the shipbuilder, preferred to build a new ship in her place. This eventually resulted in the construction of the Brederode, which in May 1645 became Witte de With's flagship. In the Aemilia's place, Tromp moved his flag to the new, but much smaller ship, the Prinses Roijael Maria. Her dimensions, in Amsterdam feet were 124ft x 29.5ft x 13ft. Dr. Elias says that she carried 32 guns in 1643. She carried 34 guns, in 1652, prior to her capture in port, by the English. Her lower tier were mainly 12pdr, while the Aemilia carried 36pdr, 24pdr, and 18pdr on the lower tier (4-36pdr, 11-24pr,12-18pdr, 21-12pdr, and 9-6pdr, altogether). The Prinses Roijael Maria was taken by the English at the outbreak of the First Anglo-Dutch War, which caught some Dutch warships in English ports, where they were seized. The Prinses Roijael Maria eventually served as the Princess Maria in the English service.
Tuesday, May 30, 2006
By 1664, Amsterdam had discarded their aversion to large ships
By the time that the new construction program, prior to the Second Anglo-Dutch War, had commenced in 1664, Amsterdam had accepted that larger ships were necessary to be able to effectively fight the English. Their ships were often still armed with a mixed armament on the lower deck, due to their not having solved their gun supply problem. Frank Fox says that by the time of the Third Anglo-Dutch War, the Dutch had acquired sufficient guns to be able to more heavily arm their ships. I do not have much information about this issue, but I do know that Michiel De Ruyter's flagship, the Zeven Provinciën, carried a complete lower tier of 36pdrs in the Third War.
Monday, May 29, 2006
Many of the ships in Witte de With's squadron that went to Brazil were gone before 1652
Witte de With's squadron that went to Brazil in late 1647 and early 1648 were gone before 1652:
Adm Ship Name Guns Initial Commander Fate
M Brederode 49 Witte Cornelisz de With Sunk in 1658 at Battle of the Sound
M Gelderland 40 Joost van Coulster Not mentioned after 1659
M Dolphijn 32 Job Forant Last mentioned in 1657
A Huis van Nassau 40 Govert Forens Damaged on 28 Sept 1648
captured by Portuguese
A Haarlem 36 Matthijs Gillissen Last mentioned in 1666
A Utrecht 32 Jacob Paulusz Cort Exploded on 28 Sept 1648
A (Groot)Zutphen 30 Cornelis Toelast Last mentioned in 1665
A Overijssel 28 Dirck Crijnen Verveen Sold upon return
N Eendracht 41 Paulus Coolen Burnt in action in 1676
N Wapen van Nassau 38 Lieven de Zeeuw Gone before 1652
N Witte Eenhoorn 30 Jan Gijzen Last mentioned in 1655
N Koning David 34* Willem Claesz Ham Gone before 1652
A Gewapende Ruyter 36 Boetius Schaeff In June 1652, captured by English
Of 13 ships, including the Portuguese prize, 5 were lost or gone before 1652. Several had long service, such as the Noorderkwartier ship Eendracht.
Sunday, May 28, 2006
Ships needing repairs after the Battle of Portland in 1653
I have a number of documents dating from March 1653, following the Battle of Portland (or the Three Days' Battle, as the Dutch call it) that list ships that had been at the battle, had survived in the Dutch service, and now needed repairs. These are the ships mentioned:
Gidion Elias Burgh Sint Maria LamThe ships named are all Directors' ships. They seem to have been ships hired by different Directors. The Lam reference could be one of two ships. One hired by the Middelburg Directors or one hired by the Amsterdam Directors. The Burgh is probably the Rotterdam Directors' ship. The three pages date from 11 March, 14 March, and 22 March 1653, and are from the Nationaal Archief. Rick van Velden found them for me in September 2003.
Saturday, May 27, 2006
English Captain: John Blythe
John Blythe served in the Commonwealth navy. in 1654, he commanded the 5th Rate Recovery. In 1655, he commanded the prize Hound (36 guns). In 1656, he commanded the 6th Rate Martin (12 guns). From 1656 until 1657, he commanded the 4th Rate Dover (40 guns). Sources:
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- R. C. Anderson, Lists of Men-of-War 1650-1700: Part I English Ships 1649-1702, 1966
- William Laird Clowes, The Royal Navy: A History from the Earliest Times to the Present, Vol.II, 1898
Friday, May 26, 2006
The list of ships at Vlissingen in July 1653: the Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier
According to the list of ships at Vlissingen in July 1653, there were 10 ships in the service of the Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier at the Battle of the Gabbard. Number 65 was apparently Pieter Florissen's flagship, the Monnikendam (36 guns). Number 72 was captured by the English. This must be the Stad van Medemblick (26 guns, or perhaps 30 guns by 1653) commanded by Pieter Schellinger. This ship was one of the 36 cruisers funded in 1651 by the Staten Generaal.
Thursday, May 25, 2006
East India Company ships from the Amsterdam Chamber in July 1653
The July 1653 list of ships includes three ships from the Amsterdam Chamber of the VOC. One of them is listed as being unready. I believe that these are the ships in question:
Ship Commander Guns Crew Length Beam Hold Gerechtigheid Evert Pietersz Swart Mercurius Pieter de Bitter 40 200 123ft 30ft 12ft Huis van Nassau Jan Pietersz van Strijp Another candidate is the Vrede (although she may have been purchased) Vrede Pieter Salomonszoon 40 200 131.5ft 32.5ftI am not absolutely sure about the Huis van Nassau, so as usual, there is a great deal of uncertainty.
Wednesday, May 24, 2006
The Dolphijn in 1629 and in 1633
I have previously written about the Rotterdam ship Dolphijn in the year 1629. Four years later, she was still commanded by Willeboort Leendertszoon. In 1629, she carried the following guns:
2-brass half-cartouwen 24pdr
2-brass chambered 24pdr
2-brass 12pdr ("veltstucken")
8-iron 8pdr
4-iron 6pdr
2-iron 5pdr
2-iron 4pdr
5-steenstukken with 10 chambers
In 1633, she was armed with the following guns:
2-brass half-cartouwen 24pdr 2-brass chambered 24pdr 2-brass 12pdr 8-iron 8pdr 4-iron 6pdr 4-iron 5pdr 2-iorn 4pdr 5-steenstukken with 5 chambersAs you can see, the armament changed very little from 1629 to 1633. I had expected that there would be no change, but that is not the case. The 1633 information is from the Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1633, while the 1629 information is from the Staet for 1629.
Tuesday, May 23, 2006
The mystery remains as to why Vreugdenhil missed so many ships from 1652 to 1653
I had only known that there were a large number of ships not mentioned in Vreugdenhil, from 1652 to 1653, from seeing the list translated and republished in The First Dutch War, Vol.I (from the Hollandsche Mercurius for 1652). From the published sources, there many ships for which I could not apply names. Only after Jan Glete sent me a copy of his notes and then Rick van Velden, at the Nationaal Archief found documents for me, was I able to give names to most of the ships in that list (from about June 1652). It is harder to understand, as Dr. Johan E. Elias, in Schetsen uit de Geschiedenis van ons Zeewezen mentioned by name, and sometimes included the captain's name, for some of the ships in the service of the Amsterdam Directors. This was quite a bit before Vreugdenhil compiled his list. Dr. Ballhausen made no attempt, apparently, to use anything but published sources, so his book is even less useful, in that respect. Of course, Dr. Ballhausen did use some very obscure published sources, and he did supply names of ships and information not published elsewhere, except for the original source. Apparently, Vreugdenhil used Dr. Ballhausen's book for part of his list, although Vreugdenhil seems to have been savvier than Dr. Ballhausen.
Monday, May 22, 2006
More Directors' ships
This is somewhat redundant, but I have firmed up in my mind those who employed the ship Kameel, commanded by Joost Bulter. I will also list the Harlingen (Friesland) Directors' ships. One was apparently retired after the Battle of the Gabbard, and captains were changed.
Adm Ship Name Guns Crew Commander Gro-Dir Kameel 42 Joost Bulter Ha-Dir Vergulde Pelicaen 28 100 Adriaan Heeres Cleyntien Ha-Dir Sint Vincent 28 105 Andries Douweszoon PascaertAfter the Battle of the Gabbard, Andries Douwesz Pascaert was dismissed from the service. Adriaan Heeres Cleyntien commanded the Sint Vincent until her loss in the storm in early November 1653. Joost Bulter's ship, of course, was sunk at the Battle of the Gabbard, by gunfire. Joost Bulter was killed in the battle. The July 1653 list of ships at Vlissingen (and Goeree and the Texel) indicates that the Kameel was a ship in the service of the Admiralty of Friesland, but that seems to be not the case. Also note that most sources don't list the guns or armament of the Sint Vincent. The Vergulde Pelicaen is not mentioned by name in any published source. A handwritten list from September 1652 supplies the names and captains of both Harlingen Directors' ships. Hendrick de Raedt's pamphlet supplies the guns and crew information. We were able to confirm Dr. Ballhausen's giving 42 guns as the Kameel's armament, as I have Richard Badiley's biography, where that information is listed.
Sunday, May 21, 2006
New construction in Zeeland between 1653 and July 1654
As part of the new construction program initiated during the First Anglo-Dutch War, seven new ships had come into service with the Admiralty of Zeeland between 1653 and July 1654. I have based this list upon the appendix in Vol.I of J. C. De Jonge's book, Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen. This is the list, with ship names applied, based on the Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654:
Ship name Guns Crew Length Beam Hold Commander Zeelandia 50 95 136 34 13.75 Cornelis Evertsen de Jonge Utrecht 40 95 134 33 13.5 Vlissingen 40 95 130 34 13.5 Frans Mangelaer Middelburg 40 90 130 34 13.5 Cornelis Evertsen de Oude Kampveere 40 90 130 34 13.5 Pieter Gorcum Dordrecht 40 90 130 34 13.5Sources:
- H.A. van Foreest and R.E.J. Weber, De Vierdaagse Zeeslag 11-14 Juni 1666, 1984
- J. C. De Jonge, Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen, Vol.I, 1858
- Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654, 1654
- A. Vreugdenhil, Ships of the United Netherlands 1648-1702, 1938
Saturday, May 20, 2006
English Captain: Daniel Baker
Daniel Baker served in the Commonwealth navy. In 1656, he commanded the Hopewell pink (20 guns). From 1656 until 1657, he commanded the Lizard (20 guns), a Royalist prize. Sadly, neither the ships nor Daniel Baker are otherwise mentioned in sources available to me. Sources:
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- R. C. Anderson, Lists of Men-of-War 1650-1700: Part I English Ships 1649-1702, 1966
Friday, May 19, 2006
I appears that I have solved the cross browser issues in this blog
I have been particularly unhappy with how this blog appeared in Internet Explorer. Even in Firefox, there were "issues". I seem to have solved them. The only question is how the blog would appear on a lower resolution display. I was forced to do some "absolute positioning" with CSS to get an acceptable appearance.
The Noorderkwartier ships from the July 1654 list
De Jonge has a list in an appendix to Vol.I of his six volume work that lists Dutch ships in service in 1654. This list seems closely aligned with the Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654, dated in July 1654. There is some additional information in De Jonge's list, as he supplies lengths for some Zeeland ships beyond what I found in my copies of the Staet. I thought it must be useful to try and fill in parts of the list with actual names (De Jonge omitted ship names). Here is my attempt for the Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier:
Jozua 50 95 136 34 14 Gelderland 50 95 136 34 14 Drie Helden Davids 46 90 130 34 13.5 Caleb 46 90 130 32.5 12.5 Jupiter 46 90 130 32 12 Eendracht 41 90 130 32 12 Monnikendam 38 80 120 28.5 11 Alckmaer 32 90 130 32 12 Reynst Cornelisz Sevenhuysen Wapen van Enkhuijsen 34 80 Eenhoorn 30 80 125 29 Jan Jansz Heck Enkhuijsen 30 80 116 26.5 10 Claes Backer Casteel van Medemblick 28 80 120 27 11 Adriaan Houttuijn Enkhuijsen 28 80 116 26.5 10 Dirck Gerritsz Pomp Jonge Prins 28 80 120 28 11.5 Cornelis Barendsz Slordt Wapen van Monnikendam 28 75 116 26.5 10 Arent Dirckszoon Prinses Roijael 26 75 125 30 11.5 Captain (Willem?) Ham Hoorn 26 75 116 26.5 10Sources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2005
- J. C. De Jonge, Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen, Vol.I, 1858
- Staet van Oorlogh te Water for the year 1654, 1654
Thursday, May 18, 2006
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The nine Zeeland Directors' ships
Zeeland as allocated nine ships from the 50 Directors' ships funded in 1652. Again, we have a list of nine ships from the Hollandsche Mercurius list, reprinted in The First Dutch War, Vol.I and also from Hendrick de Raedt's pamphlet. This is the list:
kapitein Jan le Sage Mi-Dir Vergulde Haan 30 105 kapitein Jacob Adriaansz Penssen Mi-Dir Gouden Leeuw 30 110 kapitein Johannes van Regermorter Mi-Dir ? 30 105 kapitein Bastiaan Tuynemans Mi-Dir Sint Laurens 30 105* kapitein Jan Thyssen Vl-Dir Witte Lam 32 110 kapitein Cornelis Evertsen de Jonge Vl-Dir Vlissingen 26 110 kapitein Allert Janszoon Vl-Dir Dubbele Arend 28 110 kapitein Cornelis Rocusensz Fincen Zi-Dir Liefde 34 110 kapitein Jan Olivierszoon Ve-Dir Wapen ter Veere 38 125The Sint Laurens was captured by the English on 29 May 1652, in the opening battle of the war, near Dover and the Downs. The issues again revolve around the existence of at least one other ship that was known to be Zeeland Directors' ships. By July 1652, Leendert den Haen commanded the Haes in 't Veld (30 guns and a crew of 108 ships). This ship seems to have been the one later commanded by Bastiaan Centsen. The exact timing is unclear, but by the Battle of Dungeness, Bastiaan Centsen was captain of the Haes in 't Veld. He took the English ship Hercules after the battle.
Wednesday, May 17, 2006
Carl Stapel has a really good list of Dutch ships in service before the start of the First Anglo-Dutch War
Carl Stapel shared with me his list of Dutch ships in service before the start of the First Anglo-Dutch War. Right now, the list primarily covers Directors' ships. His list for the Rotterdam or Maze Directors is quite good:
Adm Ship name Guns Crew Commander M-Dir Burcht 28 105 Adriaen de Zeeuw M-Dir Jonas 36 125 Johan de Lieffde M-Dir Meerman 30 120 Jacob Cleijdijck M-Dir Prins Symon Cornelisz van der Meer M-Dir Prins te Paard 38 110 Corstiaen Corstiaenszoon M-Dir Sint Andries 26 105 Ruth Jacobsz Buys M-Dir Sint Pieter 29 110 Isaac de JonghI thought that his information for Adriaen de Zeeuw makes a good deal of sense. I suspect that his name for Ruth Jacobsz Buys' ship is derived from me, and that I had just made an estimate, so I would like to find more information to have more confidence in the name of his ship. In any case, I am going forward with the information from Carl's list as my "current working assumption".
Known war losses from the first 24 Amsterdam Directors' ships
Of the first 24 ships hired by the Amsterdam Directors in early March 1652, none were lost during 1652, except for the Prins Maurits. That changed in 1653. These are the ships that were lost and their fate. I have only listed the original captain:
Captain Ship Guns Fate Abraham van Kampen Arke Troijnane 28 Sunk at the Battle of Portland Cornelis Jansz Poort Kroon Imperiael 34 Sunk at the Battle of Portland Nicolaes de With Prins Maurits 34 Wrecked in November 1652 Bartholmeus Rietbeeck Rooseboom 28 Captured at the Battle of the Gabbard Stoffel Juriaenszoon Sint Francisco 28 Captured at the Battle of Portland Jacob Syverstz Spanheym Elias 34 Captured at the Battle of the Gabbard Bruyn van Seelst Groote Liefde 38 Captured at the Battle of PortlandSeveral of the captured ships saw long service in the English navy, such as the Groote Liefde, which was recaptured by the Dutch at the Battle of Lowestoft, in June 1665.
Tuesday, May 16, 2006
Amsterdam hired ships in March 1653
From my list of ships in service with the Dutch fleet in March 1653, there are the Amsterdam hired ships:
Hired ships Rank Name Adm/Dir guns Sailors Soldiers Ship kapitein Willem van Nieuhoff A 40 130 20 Aertsengel Michiel kapitein Lucas Albertssen? A 36 130 20 Drie Coningen kapitein Adriaan van den Bosch A 36 130 20 Engel Gabriel kapitein Evert Anthonissen A 32 130 20 Hollandia kapitein Albert Claesz de Graeff A 32 100 20 Hollandia kapitein Jacob Troncquois A 30 100 20 Omlandia kapitein Sijmon van der Aeck? A 30 100 20 Amsterdam kapitein Jacob Schellinger A 28 100 20 Venetia kapitein Jacob Janssen Roocher A 28 100 20 Julius Caesar kapitein Cornelis Janszoon A 28 100 20 Jupiter kapitein Hendrick Govertszoon A 28 100 20 Star kapitein Pieter Tuenisz Bontebotter A 28 100 20 Zwarten Arend kapitein Pieter van Breen A 28 100 20 Sint Pieter kapitein Sijbrant Jansz Mol A 28 100 20 Witte Olifant kapitein Meijndert Theunisz OosterwoutA 28 100 20 Salomons Ordeel kapitein Adriaan Rodenhaes A 28 100 20 Rodenhaes kapitein Pieter Jansz de Vries A 28 100 20 Suzanna kapitein Harman Sonne A 28 100 20 Madonna della Vigna kapitein Jan Boermans A 28 100 20 Prins Willem kapitein Cornelis van Velsen A 28 100 20 Gelderland kapitein Adriaan van Loenen A 28 100 20 Goude Reael kapitein Jan ter Stegen A 28 100 20 Prinses Aemilia ? ? A 28 100 20 Hoop ? ? A 28 100 20 Engel kapitein Hendrik Adriaanszoon A 26 90 20 Sampson ? ? A 24 80 20 Goude Leeuw ? ? A 24 80 20 Patientia ? ? A 24 80 20 Keyser ? ? A 24 80 20 Hoop kapitein Hillebrant Jeroenszoon A 24 80 20 Hollandsche Tuin kapitein Dirk Pietersz Heertjens A 18 70 15 WindhondThe ships with unknown captains were paid off sometime before this, or around this time and their captains were reassigned to replace captains who were dismissed from the service. A feature of this list is that there seems to be no room for a mystery ship, such as that commanded by Abraham van der Hulst in 1652 (a ship of 26 guns). That was why it seemed that he might have commanded the Sampson (26 guns), later commanded by Hendrick Adriaanszoon. Another question is if the Hoop (28 guns) listed here was the ship commanded by Boëtius Schaeff at the Battle of the Gabbard, when he was killed.
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