- Pieter Casteleyn, Hollandsche Mercurius, 1652
- Johan E. Elias, De Vlootbouw in Nederland 1596-1655, 1933
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
- Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654, 1654
- A. Vreugdenhil, Ships of the United Netherlands 1648-1702, 1938
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
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Friday, September 22, 2006
Abraham van der Hulst's ship in 1652
Thursday, September 21, 2006
The Carolus Quintus
The ship Carolus Quintus, Capt. Joris Kuiten Length from stem to sternpost: 132ft Beam: 32ft Hold: 13-1/2ft 52 guns: 8-18pdr 12-12pdr 20- 8pdr 12- 3pdr Crew: 225 menSources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2005
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Wednesday, September 20, 2006
So what is in J. C. De Jonge's notes?
"the notes of dr J.C. de Jonge filenr 1.01.47.30 almost 1 meter in length... !!" in the Nationaal Archief in The Hague.
Tuesday, September 19, 2006
Ron van Maanen largely does not mention captains in his list
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
- list of Amsterdam hired ships from the Wrangell Collection, Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Monday, September 18, 2006
I had wondered about the Rotterdam ship Vrede
The ship Vrede Length from stem to sternpost: 111ft Beam: 27ft-3in Hold: 12ft Height over hold: 6ft-6in Operations: June 1665, Battle of Lowestoft, commanded by Laurens van Heemskerck August 1665, with De Ruyter's fleet, commanded by Eland du Bois August 1666, St. James's Day Battle, commanded by Juriaan Juriaansz Poel May 1667, took part in operations near England, commanded by Jan van Brakel Broke the chain at Chatham
Sources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2006
- Frank Fox, A Distant Storm: the Four Days' Battle of 1666, 1996
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Sunday, September 17, 2006
Zeeland Directors' ship with Witte de With in September 1652
Adm Ship Guns Crew Captain Vl-Dir Dubbele Arend 28 111 Aldert (Allert) Jansz Mi-Dir Leeuwinne 30* 120* Capt. (Johannes van) Regermorter Vl-Dir Haes 26 120 Bastiaan Sempsem (as given) Mi-Dir Gouden Leeuw 30 110 Capt. (Jacob) Penssen * not given in the journal for September 1652Sources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2006
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships and Captains 1652-1654", 2006
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Saturday, September 16, 2006
Some more news from Witte de With's journal
Adm Ship Guns Crew Captain Z Hollandia 38 138 Felip Joosten Z a ship 24 90 Pieter Gorcum N Burgh van Alkmaar 30 98 Gerrit Nobel F Frisia 29 108 Schelte Wigglema F Gelderland 28 77 Laurens Degelcamp A Groningen 40 130 Abraham van der Hulst R-Dir Prins 34 130 Corstiaen Corstiaenszoon
Friday, September 15, 2006
The 17 ships that sailed to Zeeland after the Three Days' Battle
Adm Ship Guns Crew Captain
Z Hollandia 38 127 Vice-Admiral Jan Evertsen
flag captain Adriaan Bankert
Z Wapen van Zeeland 28 127 Commandeur Cornelis Evertsen de Oude
Z Vlissingen 28 95 Cornelis Evertsen de Jonge
Z West Cappelle 26 110 Claes Jansz Sanger
Z Liefde 26* 86* the ship of the late
Joost Bankert de Jonge
Vl-Dir Haes 30 120 Bastiaan Semptsem
(presumably the same as
Centen, Senten or Sentsen)
Vl-Dir Dubbele Arend 30 100 Schipper Teunis Poort
Z-Dir a ship 18 90 Lambert Bartelszoon
Mi-Dir Leeuwinne 30 120 Luitenant of Capt. Regermorter
Mi-Dir Gouden Leeuw 30 120 Jacob Adriaansz Pennse
Z-Dir Gecroonde Liefde 23 93 Dingeman Cats
Z Vlissingen* 34 134 Jan Pouwelszoon
Z Zeeridder 28 114 Gilles Janszoon
Ve-Dir Wapen van der Vere 37 116 Jan Olivierszoon
Z a ship 23 100 Jacob Wolferszoon
Z Liefde* 30 120 schipper Johannes van Regermorter
the ship of Cornelis Mangelaer
Sources:
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2005
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Thursday, September 14, 2006
Jan Gideonsz Verburgh's ship Graaf Willem
The ship Graaf Willem, Capt. Jan Gideonsz Verburgh Length from stem to sternpost: 125ft Beam: 31ft Hold: 12-1/2ft Height over hold: 7ft 40 guns: 4-18pdr, 16-12pdr, 16-8pdr, 4-6pdr Crew: 155 men
Sources:
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Wednesday, September 13, 2006
The name of Ruth Jacobsz Buys' ship
Rotterdam ships in Witte de With's journal
Admiralty of Rotterdam Captain crew guns Ship (not listed in journal) Vice-Admiral de With 150 36 Prinses Louise the ship of Lt-Adm. Tromp Brederode Capt. van Nes 123 30 Gorinchem Rotterdam Directors Captain crew guns Ship (not listed in journal) Capt. Corstiaen Corstiaensz 130 34 Prins Capt. Ruth Jacobsz Buys HollandiaWe next see lists for May 1653:
Admiralty of Rotterdam Captain crew guns Ship (not listed in journal) Commandeur Haexwant 98 22 Utrecht Capt. Vijgh 98 24 Overijssel Lt-Cdr. Pieter Verhaven 120 32 Capt. Willem Arentsz Warmont 116 30 Gorinchem Capt. Kerckhoff 116 32 Dolphijn Capt. Aert Jansz van Nes Gelderland The ship of Lt-Adm Tromp 268 56 Brederode Rotterdam Directors' Ships Captain crew guns Ship (not listed in journal) Capt. Ruth Jacobsz Buys 95 26 Hollandia Corstiaen Eldertsz 95 24 Roskam Capt. Sijmon Cornelisz van der Meer Sint Pieter Capt. Jacob Cleijdijck 168 38 Prins Rotterdam Chamber of the VOC Captain crew guns Ship (not listed in journal) Jan Arensz van der Werff 124 32 Wapen van NassauThis seems to be from July 1653:
Admiralty of Rotterdam Captain crew guns Ship (not listed in journal) Lt-Admiral Tromp 290 55 Brederode Capt. Haexwant 100 22 Utrecht Capt. Vijgh 105 24 Overijssel Lt-Cdr Pieter Verhaven 106 30 Capt. Aert Jansz van Nes 99 24 Gelderland Capt. Abel Roelantsz Verboom 155 36 Prinses Louise Rotterdam Directors' Ships Captain crew guns Ship (not listed in journal) Capt. Jacob Cleijdijck 147 38 Prins Capt. Ruth Jacobsz Buys 100 26 Hollandia Capt. Sijmon Cornelisz van der Meer Sint Pieter Rotterdam Chamber of the VOC Captain crew guns Ship (not listed in journal) Jan Arensz van der Werff 128 36 Wapen van NassauThese are the ships with the fleet from September to November 1653:
Admiralty of Rotterdam Captain crew guns Ship Capt. Egbert Meeuwssen 275 54 Brederode Capt. Abel Roelantsz 131 36 Prinses Louise Capt. Aert van Nes 114 24 Gelderland Rotterdam Directors' ships Captain crew guns Ship Capt. Cleijdijck 146 38 Prins Capt. Ruth Jacobsz Buys 100 26 Hollandia (there is a word preceding this) Rotterdam Chamber of the VOC Captain crew guns Ship Capt. van der Werff Wapen van Nassouw
Tuesday, September 12, 2006
Admiralty ships of Zeeland with Witte de With's fleet in October 1653 (Revised)
Ship Guns Crew Captain 't Wapen van Ceulen 30 120 Mangelaer (revised) Amsterdam 32 120 Kempen Zeeridder 30 124 Gillis Jansz (guns and crew Aug 1653) Vlissingen 34 134 Jan Pouwelsz (guns and crew Aug 1653) Liefde 23 94 Dingeman Cats Goes 25 110 Kuijper Salmander 34 125 Pieter Marcusz
Monday, September 11, 2006
Johannes van Regermorter's ship
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
- Witte de With, journals from 1652 to 1658, Archive E8812 from the Riksarkivet, Stockholm
Sunday, September 10, 2006
The ship of Jan Arentsz van der Werff
Saturday, September 09, 2006
There is some priceless information in the papers and journals of Witte de With
Friday, September 08, 2006
Ships in service for the Admiralty of Friesland in March 1653
Admirality of Friesland Warships Number Guns Crew My Notes 2 38 110-140 Zevenwolden and Groningen? 2 28 110 Breda and Westergo Hired ships Number Guns Crew 2 30 110 Schaapherder and Postpaard 3 24-26 90 Sint Nicolaas, Sara, Gelderland? 1 16 60 WaterhondSources:
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
- Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.II, 1900
- J. C. De Jonge, Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen, Vol.I, 1858
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Thursday, September 07, 2006
The Amsterdam ship Edam is still something of a mystery
Wrangell Collection document: 124ft x 28ft x 11ft 6-1/2ft "traditional dimensions": 120ft x 28ft x 11ft 6-1/4ft 5 April 1653: 124ft x 28ft 7 July 1653: 124ft x 28ft 7 July 1654: 120ft x 28ft 31 March 1665: 123ft x 30ft 14 April 1665: 124ft x 29ftThere is also some variation in the armament:
Wrangell Collection document: 6-brass 12pdr, 14-8pdr, 4-brass 6pdr, 4-6pdr 16 November 1652: 6-12pdr, 12-8pdr, 12-6pdr 4 April 1653: 6-12pdr, 14-8pdr, 8-6pdr 7 July 1653: 6-12pdr, 14-8pdr, 10-6pdr April 1655: 6-12pdr, 14-8pdr, 8-6pdr, 2-6pdr (?) drakes 14 April 1665: 18-12pdr, 16-6pdr, 4-3pdrSources:
- list of Admiralty of Amsterdam hired ships from 1652 from the Wrangell Collection, 1652
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated, but circa 1992
Wednesday, September 06, 2006
More about the Zeeland jacht Dordrecht from Ron van Maanen
- Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.II, 1900
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
- Staet van Oorlog te Water for the year 1654, 1654
Tuesday, September 05, 2006
The VOC ship Breda in the First Anglo-Dutch War
The ship Breda Length from stem to sternpost: 170ft Beam: 38ft Hold: 21ft Height over hold: 7ft 32 guns: (30 July 1653) 4-18pdr 18-12pdr 10-6pdr Crew: 196 to 296 menSources:
- Ron van Maanen, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Warships 1600-1800", undated but circa 1992
Monday, September 04, 2006
Are the Kalmar Sleutel dimensions in Maas feet?
Sunday, September 03, 2006
Pieter Adriaansz van Blocker's ship in 1652
The ship, the Liefde, Capt. Pieter Adriaansz van Blocker hired by the Hoorn Directors Length from stem to sternpost: 135-1/2ft Beam: 27ft Hold: 13-1/2ft Height above the hold: 6-1/4ft 28 guns Crew: 105 menSources:
- Ron van Maanen, Dutch Warships 1600-1800, undated, but circa 1992
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
The Vlissingen Directors' ship Witte Lam
- Pieter Casteleyn, Hollandsche Mercurius, 1652
- Ron van Maanen, Dutch Warships 1600-1800, undated, but circa 1992
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
- Francis Vere, Salt in Their Blood - The Lives of the famous Dutch Admirals, 1955
My theory is that the Engel Gabriel (28 guns) is the same as the Engel
Saturday, September 02, 2006
A gun inventory from 1652
4 pieces of 12 lbs 3100 lbs
3150 lbs
3120 lbs
3220 lbs
8 pieces of 8 lbs 2849 lbs
2840 lbs
2770 lbs
2940 lbs
2732 lbs
2970 lbs
2990 lbs
2960 lbs
10 pieces of 6 lbs 1725 lbs
1690 lbs
1775 lbs
1740 lbs
1659 lbs
1800 lbs
2100 lbs
2020 lbs
2170 lbs
2200 lbs
2 pieces of 3 lbs 848 lbs
842 lbs
Friday, September 01, 2006
What may have been Johannes Michielszoon's ship in 1652 to 1653
Thursday, August 31, 2006
I have an odd question
The Friesland jacht Waterhond
The jacht Waterhond, Capt. Oosteroon Length from stem to sternpost: 100ft Beam: 24ft Hold: 11ft Height over hold: 5-1/2ft 16 guns Crew: 60 men
Wednesday, August 30, 2006
The Witte Eenhoorn
32 guns: 6-iron 12pdr 20-iron 8pdr 2-brass 6pdr 2-iron 6pdr 2-iron 4pdr
Tuesday, August 29, 2006
The ship Amelia, in 1652
The ship Amelia, Capt. Willem van der Zaan Length from stem to sternpost: 120ft Beam: 28ft Hold: 10-1/2ft Height over hold: 6-1/2ft 28 guns: 4 brass 12 lbs 14 gotelingen 8 lbs 4 brass 6 lbs 4 gotelingen 6 lbs 2 drakes 4 lbs Crew: 90 men
Monday, August 28, 2006
More thoughts on the Rotterdam ship Schiedam
Sunday, August 27, 2006
Ron van Maanen's list of ships
Saturday, August 26, 2006
The Jaarveld, wrecked in January 1653
The ship Jaarsveld built for the Admiralty of Amsterdam in 1651 Length from stem to sternpost: 130ft Beam: 32ft Hold: 13ft Height over hold: 7ft 44 guns Crew: 150 men
Friday, August 25, 2006
The Rotterdam ship Schiedam
A candidate for Ruth Jacobsz Buys' ship from Ron van Maanen's document
Thursday, August 24, 2006
The hired ship Susanna
The ship Susanna, Capt. Pieter Jansz de Vries Length from stem to sternpost: 133ft Beam: 29-1/2ft Hold: unknown Height above hold: 6-1/4ft Guns: 4-12pdr 10-8pdr 6-6pdr 6-4pdr 2-3pdr 2-steenstukken Crew: 100 men
Wednesday, August 23, 2006
The hired ship Venetia
The ship Venetia, Capt. Jacob Schellinger Length from stem to sternpost: 130ft Beam: 28ft Hold: unknown Height over hold: 6-1/4ft 28 guns: 10-12pdr 14-6pdr 4-3pdr
17th Century Naval Wargaming is back
Tuesday, August 22, 2006
A spurt of new information
Monday, August 21, 2006
A hired ship named Engel Gabriel
Length from stem to sternpost: 136ft Beam: 29ft-6in 36 guns: 18-12pdr 2-8pdr 12-6pdr 4-4pdrThis is a ship hired in 1652, in Amsterdam. On what might be the second page, it is signed by Isaac Sweers on 12 August 1652.
Sunday, August 20, 2006
Abraham van der Hulst's ship in 1652
- Pieter Casteleyn, Hollandsche Mercurius, 1652
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
- A. Vreugdenhil, Ships of the United Netherlands 1648-1702, 1938
Is this ship model supposed to be the Gouda that served in the First Anglo-Dutch War?
the Ship Gouda, Capt. Ooms Length from stem to sternpost: 116ft Beam: 29ft Hold: 11-1/4ft Height between decks: 6ft-7in 28 guns: 4 brass 12 lbs 12 gotelingen 8 lbs 4 brass 6 lbs 6 gotelingen 6 lbs 2 brass chambered 4 lbs Crew: 90 men
Saturday, August 19, 2006
So how did Dutch ships carry their guns?
I do not have information for 1652 and 1653 about how Dutch ships carried their guns. Most Dutch ships were apparently two deckers, although the waist was not armed. I can only speculate, although I can at least make educated guesses.
For example, Hendrick Kroeger's ship 1652, up until 22 July, was the Marcus Curtius. The Marcus Curtius carried 6-iron 8pdr, 8-iron 6pdr, 4-iron 4pdr, probably 4-iron 3pdr, and 2-iron 2pdr. Presumably, the lower tier consisted of 6-8pdr, 8-6pdr, and 4-4pdr, for a total of 18 guns. That would mean 9 guns on a side. I would then guess that 4-3pdr were carried on the quarterdeck and 2-2pdr on the forecastle. The 2pdr could also have been on the poop. A different plan would have been used for Albert Claesz de Graeff's ship, the Hollandia.
The Hollandia was armed with 4-brass 12pdr, 14-iron 12pdr, 14-iron 6pdr, and 2-iron 4pdr. I would hazard a guess that all the 12pdrs were on the lower tier, all the 6pdrs were on the upper tier, with the waist unarmed, and the 2-4pdr were on the poop (or whatever level that would be, one deck higher).
Sources:- list of Amsterdam ships hired in 1652, from the Wrangell Collection at the Riksarkivet, in Stockholm, Sweden
Friday, August 18, 2006
English Naval Officer: George Delavall
- William Laird Clowes, The Royal Navy: A History from the Earliest Times to the Present, Vol.II, 1898
- William Laird Clowes, The Royal Navy: A History from the Earliest Times to the Present, Vol.III, 1898
- David Syrett, R. L. DiNardo, The Commissioned Sea Officers of the Royal Navy 1660-1815, 1994
Thursday, August 17, 2006
Isaak Sweers' ship, the Engel Gabriel (36 guns)
The ship the Engel Gabriel, Capt. Sweers Length from stem to sternpost: 130ft Beam: 30ft Hold: 13-1/2ft Height between decks: 6-1/2ft 36 guns: 18 gotelingen 12 lbs 10 gotelingen 8 lbs 4 gotelingen 6 lbs 4 gotelingen 4 lbs Crew: 120 men
Wednesday, August 16, 2006
The Amsterdam Directors' ship Walvisch
the ship Walvisch, kapitein Abraham Verleth Length from stem to sternpost: 128ft Beam: 29ft Hold: 12-1/2ft Height between decks: 7ft 28 guns: 10-12pdr 8- 8pdr 8- 6pdr 2- 3pdr Crew: 110 men
Tuesday, August 15, 2006
Cornelis Cornelisz de Groot
The ship, the Samson kapitein Cornelis Cornelisz de Groot Length from stem to sternpost: 119ft Beam: 28 or 28-1/4ft Hold: 13ft Height between decks: 6-1/4 or 6-1/2ft 28 guns: 12-12pdr 6- 8pdr (or 8-8pdr) 8- 6pdr (or 6-6pdr) 2- 3pdr Crew: 110 menIt is not unusual that the information is not consistent across documents. The best document lacks gun information. There may be another document, and I probably need to check my original copy to see if I can read more.
Monday, August 14, 2006
Do we actually know information about the Rotterdam Directors' ship Sint Pieter?
Sint Pieter Length from stem to sternpost: 123ft Beam: 28ft-7in Hold: 12-1/2ft Height between decks: 6-1/2ft 28 guns: 10-12pdr 8-8pdr 8-6pdr 2-3pdrThe page was copied poorly, so we cannot read the crew size, which must be on the original, bound page. Given the heading on the page, perhaps the list could include a non-Amsterdam vessel. Otherwise, there is a mystery ship named Sint Pieter hired by the Amsterdam Directors (which is always a slight possibility).
Sunday, August 13, 2006
How much we know about the Zeeland jacht Dordrecht
the jacht Dordrecht Length: 85ft Beam: 21ft (est) Hold: 9.5ft (est) 17 guns: 4 12pdr 7 6pdr 6 3pdr Crew: 50 menSimilar jachts in 1666 had dimensions of 86ft x 22ft x 9.75ft
Saturday, August 12, 2006
Abraham van der Hulst's ship in 1652
- Pieter Casteleyn, Hollandsche Mercurius, 1652
- Hendrik de Raedt, Lyste van de schepen van Oorloge onder het beleyt Admirael Marten Harpersz. Tromp, 1652
- A. Vreugdenhil, Ships of the United Netherlands 1648-1702, 1938
Friday, August 11, 2006
The hired ship Catharina
The ship, the Catharina, Capt. Bogaart (called Bogard in the list) Length from stem to sternpost: 116ft Beam: 25ft Hold: 11-1/2ft Height between decks: 6-1/2ft 24 guns: 6 gotelingen 8 lbs 8 gotelingen 6 lbs 4 gotelingen 4 lbs 4 gotelingen 3 lbs 2 brass bases 3 lbs Crew: 70 men
Thursday, August 10, 2006
The 24-gun hired ship Keijser
The ship, the Keijer, Capt. ter Stegen Length from stem to sternpost: 122ft Beam: 25ft Hold: 11-1/2ft Height between decks: 6ft 24 guns: 6 gotelingen 8 lbs 8 gotelingen 6 lbs 8 gotelingen 4 lbs 2 gotelingen 2 lbs Crew: 70 men (later, as many as 80 men)
Wednesday, August 09, 2006
Just to confuse matters more: Hendrick de Raedt's list
Ship Commander Guns Crew a ship Abraham van der Hulst 26 100 Star Jacob Paulusz Cort 28 95 Campen Joris van der Zaan 38 130Two of these appaer in the document from the Wrangel Collection, and are said to be hired for a specified cost. I would have guessed that Abraham van der Hulst's ship was hired, as there seem to be no States' ship that would have been available for him to command.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006
Albert de Graeff's ship Hollandia
The ship Hollandia, Capt. de Graeff Length from stem to sternpost: 130ft Beam: 29ft Hold: 13ft Height between decks: 6-1/2ft 32 guns (actually, 34 guns): 4 brass guns 12 lbs 14 iron gotelingen 12 lbs 14 iron gotelingen 6 lbs 2 iron gotelingen 4 lbs Crew: 90 men
Monday, August 07, 2006
The fireship Graaf Sonderlandt
Sunday, August 06, 2006
Dirck Schey's ship, the Achilles (or Achillis)
The ship Achillis, Capt. Scheij Length from stem to sternpost: 131ft Beam: 29ft Hold: 13ft Height between decks: 7ft-7in 28 guns: 4 iron gotelingen 12lbs 12 iron gotelingen 8lbs 8 iron gotelingen 4lbs 2 iron gotelingen 2lbs Crew: 90 men
Saturday, August 05, 2006
Hillebrandt Jeroenszoon's ship, the Hollandsche Tuin
The ship Hollandsche Tuin, Captain Hillbrandt Jeroenssen Length from stem to sternpost: 116ft Beam: 26ft Hold: 11-1/2ft Height between decks: 6ft 24 guns: 6 gotelingen 8lbs 8 gotelingen 6lbs 4 gotelingen 4lbs 2 gotelingen 3lbs 4 gotelingen 2lbs Crew: 70 men
Friday, August 04, 2006
I use my Zeven Provincien mousepad at work
The large ship Drie Coningen hired in 1652
The ship, the Drie Coningen, Capta. Lucas Aelbrechtsz. Length from stem to sternpost: 145ft Beam: 30ft Hold: 14-1/2ft Height between decks: 6-3/4ft Armed with 24 guns and of the State: 12 guns 36 guns: 16 gotelingen 12lbs 10 gotelingen 8lbs 6 gotelingen 6lbs 4 gotelingen 4lbs Crew: 120 men
Thursday, August 03, 2006
A different sort of 24 gun ship: the Marcus Curtius
The ship Marcus Curtius, Capt. Kroeger Length from stem to sternpost: 120ft Beam: 25ft Hold: 11ft Height between decks: 5-1/2ft 24 guns: 6 iron gotelingen 8 lbs 8 iron gotelingen 6 lbs 4 iron gotelingen 4 lbs 4 iron gotelingen 3 lbs (?) 2 iron gotelingen 2 lbs Crew: 70 menThe low height between decks is striking. The ship also has a length-to-beam ratio of 4.8, which is pretty large.
Wednesday, August 02, 2006
How do these dimensions for the Edam compare to those measured by the English?
- H.A. van Foreest and R.E.J. Weber, De Vierdaagse Zeeslag 11-14 Juni 1666, 1984
Tuesday, August 01, 2006
Simon van der Aeck's ship, the Amsterdam
The ship Amsterdam, kapitein Sijmon van der Aeck Length from stem to sternpost: 130ft Beam: 29ft Hold: 13ft 30 guns: 10 gotelingen of 12 lbs 8 gotelingen of 8 lbs 8 gotelingen of 6 lbs 4 gotelingen of 3 lbs
Monday, July 31, 2006
One of the ships from the list I received from Jan Glete: the Edam commanded by Barent Cramer
The ship Edam, Captain Cramer Length from stem to sternpost: 124ft Beam: 28ft Hold: 11ft Height between decks: 6-1/2ft 28 guns: 6 brass guns of 12 lbs 4 brass guns of 6 lbs 14 iron gotelingen of 8 lbs 4 iron gotelingen of 6 lbs The crew consisted of 90 men
Sunday, July 30, 2006
Climatology research in the Caribbean
More about 8 October , 9 October, and 10 October 1652
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2006
- Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.II, 1900
Saturday, July 29, 2006
Mr. Van Dongen on the situation at Antwerp in the 16th and 17th Centuries
- Antoine Francois van Dongen, "Making Waves": the life and times of Admiral Witte de With (1599-1658), 2005
Friday, July 28, 2006
New information on the way
- Amsterdam
- Rotterdam
- Hoorn
- Edam
- Enkhuizen
- Monnikendam
- Medemblick
- Middelburg
- Vlissingen
- Zierikzee
- Veere
The other hundred were to be hired by the five admiralties:
- Amsterdam
- Rotterdam (the Maze)
- Zeeland
- Noorderkwartier
- Friesland, at Harlingen
About fifty ships were quickly hired by the Directors. Dr. Elias said that only 38 ships were initially hired by the admiralties. As 1652 progressed, that number increased. It is not clear that there were ever 150 hired ships in service at the same time during the First Anglo-Dutch War. The fleet became dominated by hired ships, by the summer of 1652, when the wartime building program bore fruit.
A great deal of information exists about the Directors' ships hired by Amsterdam. I have documents from the Nationaal Archief in The Hague that give dimensions and list the guns carried. For the ships hired in April 1653, there is less complete information, as we do not know the captain or size of the crew for ships such as the Keurvorst van Keulen.
The published sources have had few details about the ships hired by the admiralties. The most we have are the captain's name, number of guns, and the crew size. This is often available for Amsterdam ships from The First Dutch War volumes and Schetsen uit de Geschiedenis van ons Zeewezen. The latter has much fewer of those details.
I have information that should be in the mail, or about to be put in the mail, from a number of sources (Jan Glete, Carl Stapel, and the Municipal Archives of Amsterdam, the GAA. There are more details about the various hired ships, often with dimensions and lists of guns. What I find useful, as well, is the date the ship was hired. Where the captain is mentioned, the information is even more useful. I also hope to get the papers of Witte de With from the Swedish national archives, and have made the request.
Thursday, July 27, 2006
The more I think about the aborted raid on Scarborough in April 1653, the stranger it seems
Wednesday, July 26, 2006
English Naval Officer: Sir John Munden
- William Laird Clowes, The Royal Navy: A History from the Earliest Times to the Present, Vol.II, 1898
- David Syrett, R. L. DiNardo, The Commissioned Sea Officers of the Royal Navy 1660-1815, 1994
Tuesday, July 25, 2006
I suspect that there are many more Dutch ships hired in 1652 and 1653 than are apparent in the literature
Monday, July 24, 2006
Number 8 in Vreugdenhil's list always has been a hole in the analysis
Sunday, July 23, 2006
One answer about how the Engel Gabriel hired on 19 June 1652 might have been employed is as Abraham van der Hulst's ship
I wondered if Vreugdenhil might have been mistaken about number 8 in his list
Saturday, July 22, 2006
The Death of Witte de With
Friday, July 21, 2006
Friesland hired their ships at Amsterdam
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol. VI, 1930
- Carl Stapel, personal communication "hired ships by admirality of Friesland", 2006
Thursday, July 20, 2006
How well would I be able to align a list of ships with those we know?
Wednesday, July 19, 2006
English Captain: Robert Sparks
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- J. R. Powell, The Navy in the English Civil War, 1962
Tuesday, July 18, 2006
Directors' ships armaments
Ship Guns Crew Captain Gun List Alexander 28 100 Jan Meyckes 12-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 4-6pdr, 2-3pdr Blauwe Arend 28 105 Dirck Pater 4-18pdr, 8-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 6-6pdr, 2-3pdr Catarina 28 ? Jacob Jansz Coppe 10-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 8-6pdr, 2-3pdr David en Goliad 34 120 Claes Bastiaansz van Jaarveld 4-24pdr, 14-12pdr, 10-8pdr, 4-6pdr, 2-3pdr Groote Vergulde Fortuijn 35 135 Frederick de Coninck 4-24pdr, 16-12pdr, 11-6pdr, 4-3pdr Hollandsche Tuin 32 ? Joris Jansz Block 4-18pdr, 10-12pdr, 8-8pdr, 8-6pdr, 2-3pdr
Monday, July 17, 2006
Joost Bankert de Jonge in the First Anglo-Dutch War
Adm Ship Guns Crew Acq Type Note Commander Ship Captain
Z Liefde 26 86 1652 h 8/1652 Joost Bankert de Jonge De Ruyter's fleet
8/1652 Joost Bankert de Jonge The Battle of Plymouth
12/1652 Joost Bankert de Jonge In Jan Evertsen's squadron
12.1652 Joost Bankert de Jonge The Battle of Dungeness
2/1653 Joost Bankert de Jonge killed The Three Days Battle
3/1653 Joost Bankert's luitenant To Vlissingen
Sunday, July 16, 2006
English Captain: William Thomas
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- J. R. Powell, The Navy in the English Civil War, 1962
Saturday, July 15, 2006
English Captain: Richard Willoughby
- R. C. Anderson, List of English Naval Captains 1642-1660, 1964
- J. R. Powell, The Navy in the English Civil War, 1962
Friday, July 14, 2006
This must be the armament for the Jozua in 1654
Jozua (136ft x 34ft x 14ft) Built at Hoorn in 1654 Crew: about 200 sailors and 30 soldiers 50 guns Lower Tier: 4-24pdr 18-18pdr Upper Tier: 10-12pdr 10-8pdr Superstructure: 4-6pdr 4-4pdrSources:
- James C. Bender, unpublished manuscript "Dutch Ships 1600-1700", 2005
- H.A. van Foreest and R.E.J. Weber, De Vierdaagse Zeeslag 11-14 Juni 1666, 1984
- J. C. De Jonge, Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen, Vol.I, 1858
Ships in service in mid-March 1653 with the Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier
Admiralty of the Noorderkwartier States’ ships Rank Name Adm/Dir guns Sailors Soldiers Ship Sources kapitein Jacob Corneliszoon de Boer NQ 40 140 Eendracht 1DW4, 1DWMed, jonge1 Schout-bij-Nacht Pieter Florissen NQ 36 140 Monnikendam 1DW1, jonge1, Raedt1 commandeur Bourgoigne NQ 34 140 Enkhuizen kapitein Ham NQ 32 130 Prinses Roijaal kapitein Gabriel Antheunissen NQ 30 110 Kasteel van Medemblik kapitein Cornelis Pietersz Taenman NQ 28 120 Prins Maurits kapitein Cornelis Slordt NQ 28 120 Jonge Prins kapitein Jan Heck NQ 28 96 Eenhoorn kapitein Pieter Schellinger NQ 26 96 Stad Medemblik kapitein Arent Dirckszoon NQ 24 96 Monnikendam Hired ships Rank Name Adm/Dir guns Sailors Soldiers Ship Sources kapitein Reynst Cornelisz Sevenhuysen NQ 30 90 Profeet Samuel kapitein Willem Ham NQ 28 90 Tobias kapitein Isaak Codde NQ 24 82 Postpaert kapitein Tijs Tijmensz Peereboom NQ 24 80 Peereboom
Thursday, July 13, 2006
The Prinses Roijaal Marie and the Eenhoorn were very similar in size
200 lasts = 200 x K If we chose as K = 217, then 200 = L x B x H / 217 200 x 217 = L x B x H 43400 = 125 x 29 x H H = 12ftOf course, the hold depth is entirely contingent on the last factor we chose. Ab Hoving, in his article on Dutch ships in The Heyday of Sail book has a good discussion of lasts and their computation (or non-computation).
Wednesday, July 12, 2006
Frigateering and the Vrijheid
Tuesday, July 11, 2006
Adm Ship Guns Crew Date St Note Commander Ship Fate Captain Note
A Gelderland 28 100 1652 h 8/1652 Cornelis van Velsen at the Wielingen rendezvous
8/1652 Cornelis van Velsen De Ruyter's fleet
8/1652 Cornelis van Velsen Battle of Plymouth
12/1652 Cornelis van Velsen convoy towards Nantes
3/1653 Cornelis van Velsen The Three Days Battle
3/1653 Cornelis van Velsen Sailed from Amsterdam
4/1653 Cornelis van Velsen Lying in the Texel roads
6/1653 Cornelis van Velsen blown up killed Battle of the Gabbard
Monday, July 10, 2006
Amsterdam War Losses up to mid-March 1653
In my researches for filling in the details of De Jonge's list for March 1653, I have my version of the war losses for the Admiralty of Amsterdam for up to mid-March 1653. As a point of interest, De Jonge seems to have omitted mention of several ships from the Fishery Protection Squadron lost on 22 July 1652 that seemed to be from Amsterdam. This is my list:
Losses to date: Rank Name Adm/Dir guns Sailors Soldiers Ship Sources kapitein Johan van Galen A 44 150? 20 Jaarsveld 1DW4, jonge1 kapitein Barent Pietersz Dorrevelt A 30 100? 20 Amsterdam schet2, jonge1 kapitein Isaac Sweers A 36 130 20 Engel Gabriel 1DW4, jonge1 kapitein Jeroen Adelaar A 30 100? 20 Middelburg 1DW4, jonge1 kapitein Claes Sael A 30 100? 20 Maria 1DW4, jonge1 kapitein Dirk Bogaart A 24 80 20 Juffrouw Catharina 1DW4, schet2, jonge1 kapitein Hendrik Kroeger A 24 80 20 Marcus Curtius 1DW4, jonge1This is the complete set of all sources, including those used here:
Key:
Sources:
1DW1 = The First Dutch War, Vol.I
1DW2 = The First Dutch War, Vol.II
1DW3 = The First Dutch War, Vol.III
1DW4 = The First Dutch War, Vol.IV
1DW5 = The First Dutch War, Vol.V
1DW6 = The First Dutch War, Vol.VI
ball = Dr. Ballhausen’s book
rdhb = Rotterdamsche Historiebladen
schet2 = Schetsen uit de Geschiedens van ons Zeewezen, Vol.II
schet3 = Schetsen uit de Geschiedens van ons Zeewezen, Vol.III
schet4 = Schetsen uit de Geschiedens van ons Zeewezen, Vol.IV
schet5 = Schetsen uit de Geschiedens van ons Zeewezen, Vol.V
schet6 = Schetsen uit de Geschiedens van ons Zeewezen, Vol.VI
vloot = De Vlootbouw in Nederland
vreug = A. Vreugdenhil, Ships of the United Netherlands 1648-1702
glete = Jan Glete’s notes on Directors’ ships
dir = Director’s ship documents from the Nationaal Archief from 1652 and 1653
1-undated but from March 1652 or later with a table
2-12 March 1652
3-27 March 1652
4-30 March 1652
5-8 November 1652
6-10 January 1653
7-27 January 1653
8-28 January 1653
9-30 January 1653
10-8 February 1653
11-18 March 1653
12-undated but from early 1653
13-4 April 1653
ont = Onstelde-Zee
raedt = Pamphlet of Hendrik de Raedt (about the voyage to the Shetlands)
26Feb52 = Admiralty of Rotterdam, 26 February 1652
zdir = Zeeland Directors ships pages from the Zeeuws Archief
fleet1 = list of the fleet 15/24 July 1652 from the Nationaal Archief
fleet2 = list of the fleet 19/20 September 1652 from the Nationaal Archief
staet54 = Staet van Oorlog te Water for 1654
paintings = Michael Robinson, Van de Velde Paintings
cs = communication from Carl Stapel
salt = Francis Vere, Salt in their Blood: The Lives of the Famous Dutch Admirals, 1955.
jonge1 = J. C. De Jonge, Geschiedenis van het Nederlandsche Zeewezen, Vol.I
Sunday, July 09, 2006
I suspect that Herman Munnekes commanded Gerrit Femssen's former ship at the Battle of Dungeness
Saturday, July 08, 2006
The most likely ship for Abraham van der Hulst to have commanded in 1652
The organization of Jan Evertsen's squadron on Saturday, 7 December 1652
Vice-Admirael Admirael Schout-bij-Nacht
Commandeur Cornelis Evertsen Vice-Admiraal Johan Evertsen capitein Jan Evertsz de Liefde
Gillis Janszoon Jan le Sage Johannes van Regermorter
Jacob Adriaensz Penssen Jan Pauwelszoon Cornelis Cuijper
Bastiaen Centen Jan Oliverszoon schipper of Frans Mangelaer
Jacob Wolfertszoon Joost Banckert schipper of Cornelis Rocusz Fincen
Dingeman Cats
Friday, July 07, 2006
De Ruyter and Witte de With
- C.T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.V, 1912
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol. VI, 1930
- Staet van Oorlogh te Water for the year 1654, 1654
Thursday, July 06, 2006
I have thought that the Dutch tried to fight the English at the Battle of the Gabbard (or Nieuwpoort), with the English tactics
Wednesday, July 05, 2006
In May 1653, the East Indiaman Prins Willem was back to sailing for the VOC
- C.T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.V, 1912
- Artitec page about the Oranje
- Frank Fox, A Distant Storm: the Four Days' Battle of 1666, 1996
Tuesday, July 04, 2006
Jacob Huyrluyt and Nicolaes Marrevelt
On 22 May 1652 (new style), Anthony Young commanded a small squadron of ships patrolling off The Start: the President (36 guns), the Nightingale (24 guns), and the Recovery (24 guns). They saw an approaching group of ships being convoyed by several warships. They proved to be seven "Straatsvaarders", convoyed by two warships, the Zeelandia (34 guns) and the Campen (38 guns). The Zeelandia was commanded by Jacob Huyrluyt and the Campen was commanded by Joris van der Zaan. Jacob Huyrluyt's lieutenant was Nicolaes Marrevelt, who had a distinguished career in the First and Second Anglo-Dutch Wars. Anthony Young attempted to enforce the requirement for Dutch ships to salute English ships, when they were in home waters. Shots were exchanged, and ultimately, Anthony Young let the Dutch proceed, as he did not want to start a war, which everyone felt was imminent. In the event, the war was started a week later, near Dover, when Tromp sailed a fleet of 42 warships into the area, to escape a storm, and encountered two English squadrons commanded by Robert Blake.
The encounter off The Start is the last confirmed presence of Jacob Huyrluyt on the scene. As early as June, Nicolaes Marrevelt, as a luitenant-commandeur was listed as the commander of the Zeelandia, and was for the rest of the war. While a document reproduced in Vol.IV of The First Dutch War mentions Jacob Huyrluyt, he was apparently not present.
Sources:- Dr. S.R. Gardiner, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.I, 1898
- C. T. Atkinson, Ed., The First Dutch War, Vol.IV, 1910
Monday, July 03, 2006
Apparently, Isaak Sweers commanded the Engel Gabriel of 1636
The Reuben, a merchantman that took part in the Battle of Dover on 29 May 1652
Triumph 8 men killed, 20 wounded Reuben 3 men killed Centurion 2 men killed Victory 2 men killed Fairfax 1 man killedThe letter appears in Vol.I of The First Dutch War, which is available online in the Google Book Search. Thomas White says that only 36 of the 42 Dutch ships were actually engaged in the battle, and that before the battle, Robert Blake had declined to take the 6 Dutch merchantmen (of the seven convoyed by Jacob Huyrluyt and Joris van der Zaan). His men wanted to take them, but Blake said of them "they were men about honest occasions, and he had no order from the Council of State to meddle with them".
Sunday, July 02, 2006
There are at least two "mystery ships" in Vreugdenhil's list
The 16 ships of the Admiralty of Amsterdam funded in 1648
Amsterdam (16 ships) Adm Ship Guns Crew Date Commander A Achilles 28 100 1644 Gillis Schey A Bommel 30 100 1645 Pieter van Brakel A Dolphijn 32 120 1633 Gerbrand Schatter A Edam 28 100 1644 Barent Cramer A Gouda 28 100 1636 Jan Egbertsz Ooms A Leiden 28 100 1647 Cornelis Cornelisz Jol A Star 28 100 1644 Jacob Paulusz Cort A Utrecht 30 100 1633 Jan Roetering A Westfriesland 28 100 1648 Hendrik Huyskens A Zutphen 26 100 1636 Ewout Jeroenszoon A Brak 18 70 1649 Pieter van Zalingen A Windhond 18 70 1649 Dirk Pietersz Heertjens A Overijssel 28 100 1650 Jan van Campen A Zeelandia 32 120 1643 Jacob Huyrluyt A Fazant 32 120 1646 Jan Jansz de Lapper A Engel Gabriel ? ? 1636Given that we do not know the armament or crew of this ship named Engel Gabriel, perhaps it could be the ship commanded by Abraham van der Hulst in 1652. We only know of this ship, as it is no.16 in Vreugdenhil's list. I have not seen the ship mentioned anywhere else, by name.